** On Jan 16, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho scribbled: > On 20010116T020152+0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > > Don't forget that processing phase depends on applicant's response time and > > DAM approval depends solely on DAM. So, this is a problem. > > As far as I have heard, the DAM approval time depends also on the quality > of that particular AM report and on the quality of previous reports by the > same AM. > James has IIRC stated that there are AM's whose reports he can process fast, > as he knows (from experience from their earlier reports) that they make accurate > reports and that they do their job as an AM in an excellent manner. Then there > are AM's whose reports may require him to double-check or even ask for more > data. It's natural that reports from the former set of AM's may be > more often looked at than reports from the latter. > What does it have to do with NMs? What is the fault of NMs in that case? I fail to see that. If there are AMs who aren't trustworthy enough then they should be replaced by those trustworthy ones. All accros this thread the NMs are accused of the lack of respect, of flaming "senior developers" or being rude, of having big mouth, of the greed for the @debian.org account/mail just for the sake of it - one could enumerate those accusations even longer. But, so far, the only problem was that there were shortcomings on the Debian Project side - lack of time, now lack of expertize (that's how I understand the above). Ben Collins apparently doesn't trust AMs, now you state that DAM also doesn't trust them. Something's _really_ wrong in that picture - but it's certainly not NMs that should be blamed for it. Frankly, I don't think anyone has to be blamed - just a solution should be found that will cure the problem and satisfy both sides (what do I say - both sides?? We are all supposed to be on the _same_ side...). Could we hear at least ONE proposition from the "senior developers" on how to resolve the above (two) problems? > James named some AM's who are in the former category and none of the latter. > I no longer remember the names. Wouldn't it be nice of James if he let the NMs know that their AM is one that falls in the "worse" category? Then at least the poor NM would prepare for 12-months of waiting. marek -- Visit: http://caudium.net - the Caudium WebServer /* A completely unrelated fortune */ "I am your density." -- George McFly in "Back to the Future"
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