Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free
Drake Diedrich <Drake.Diedrich@anu.edu.au> writes:
> Or any testimonials for that matter. Does he really exist?
> The closest I can come are his associates.
> John Goerzen. A fanatic who has labelled all non-free software users and
> maintainers immoral and wants us out of the project. See point 6, the most
> important one.
It is a sad day when a Debian developer is labeled a fanatic for
supporting Free Software. If you are engaging in character
assisination anyway, I might ask what your credentials are in the
field. Are you really working for Microsoft or SCO? What do you have
against Free Software?
Not only that, but I did not call maintainers immoral nor call for
your removal. You're doing a good enough job of making that case all
> Bruce Perens. A control freak who as DPL told us all to fuck off when he
Bruce had nothing to do with my proposal.
> Well, it seems my sarcastic comment *does* sum up their business plan
You will have to wait until an announcement is made. There are
greater things planned.
> I notice John Goerzen has avoided this spur of the discussion. Probably
Perhaps I was at work during the day.
> Goerzen, you (OF), and the other supporters of this resolution (both the
> now and in-the-future camps) I think have no capability to envision the
> consequences this resolution. Please follow the scenarios the rest of us
> are painting and explain to us why they won't happen.
OK let me state it now:
DEBIAN DOES NOT INCLUDE NON-FREE SOFTWARE NOW.
HOW CAN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT REMOVING IT FROM THE FTP SITE?
Do you have a problem comprehending the concept of sources.list?
> That Debian is even seriously divided over this issue is disturbing. We
> (Debian) are at the center of the Debian community. It was in the past a
> very mobile community, but since the closing of new-maintainer has become
> very stratified and a strong holier-than-thou attitude has crept into the
> developer lists. Very much like the *BSDs exhibit. Very Cathedral. And now
> the developers are seriously discussing leaving the center of the community
> and moving to the edge. Do you not feel the presence of a community around
> you, or have you found a different, more "moral" community within the
> developer ranks?
Debian has always been about supporting Free Software. I am concerned
about people like you moving towards proprietary software.