On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 04:43:57PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 12:55:09AM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > > The implication is that packages that are generally considered 'important' > > need less testing. I don't buy that. Something like a new gnome or > > a new XFree will need *more* testing than the average package, not less. > > They are also highly complex packages. > > I believe the point is, and FWIW I agree, that a few key packages are > easier to stabilize and fold into an already stable system than trying to > stabilize 4000+ packages all at once. Surely your experience managing > this release indicates that clearly to you. There is simply an immense > amount of coordination that is required to freeze and release unstable. > > On the same token, it's relatively easy by comparison to take a 2.2 kernel > once the bugs are worked out of it and add it to Slink. Or a new Apache. > Or a new Gnome. Or any other package which a significant majority of > Debian users and developers feel needs to be in the stable distribution to > keep it current with the needs of its users. > > > We cannot add these things to Potato now. I do not now and never have > disputed that. We should, however, commit ourselves right this moment to > adding these things to Potato after release when it is believed these > packages are in the context of Potato, good to release. I would have to agree with this. We are way too late in a freeze to be adding packages, but i would like to see modifications to the policy(is that where its handled?) that states that only security updates and fairly major bug fixes go into a stable release. Possible a month or two after potato is released release a new version, with apache and gnome 1.2, possible with KDE v2 if we get that worked out(please dont start a thread based on if we can do this or not, again :) Probably not XF4.0 or the 2.4 kernel, as they will probably need more time. But enough ranting, because we need to spend our time getting the release ready rather than discussing how to release :) > > Same principle as the package pool applies: It's easier to make a few > packages stable for release with everything else that is already stable > than it is to hack everything and then call a halt to development while > people work to stabilize the work that's been done. How many developers > are already running Woody, regardless of Potato's status? I know I am. > > -- > Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@debian.org> GnuPG key 1024D/DCF9DAB3 > Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org/) 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC > The QuakeForge Project (http://quakeforge.net/) 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 > > <Valkyrja> java, hon, sometimes I really want to smack you. > <Knghtbrd> Valkyrja - he'd enjoy it too much > <Reteo> Valkyrja: yah, go ahead and do it... beat java into cappuccino! :-) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org > -- Erik Bernhardson journey@jps.net -- It is better to remain silent and be considered a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Abraham Lincoln
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