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Re: calling Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> [the long version]

On Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 03:16:41AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > Well, I send stuff that isn't spam from a dialup IP.
> I send ALL my mail from a dial-up IP.  I've never been blocked.
> Of course, I use my ISP's mail relay host, so even if my dial up IP
> was in the DUL list (which it's not as it happens) I would not be
> affected in the slightest.
> So where's the problem ?

Windows NT and Exchange mail server.  Unfortunately, the number of ISPs
using this piece of crap is on the rise.  Even UNIX based ISPs are
setting up a little NT box for mail these days because someone decided to
make a proprietary mail client/server "standard".

Of course, that they mangle mail from those SMTP-speaking softwares that
follow that silly and outdated RFC thing which interferes with their

Mail sent through such Exchange servers is prone to be lost because of
gross instabilities in the server (and OS) and is frequently mangled when
(and if) it's delivered.  Given that without trying I have managed to
singlehandedly crash my ISP's Exchange server some nice people on irc got
me a POP account on their mail server, which is where all of my mail has
been delivered.  That's great and those people have my thanks for the
resources they allow me to use.

But that only handles my incoming mail.  My outgoing mail I can and
should send out myself.  I'm running a perfectly capible workstation with
a full smtp server here.  Given that, I might as well use it.

Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@debian.org>            Debian GNU/Linux developer
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