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Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Almeida <bma@debian.org>
To: Phillip R. Jaenke <prj@nls.net>
Cc: Brent Fulgham <bfulgham@xpsystems.com>; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
<debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests


>On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 10:49:09AM -0400, Phillip R. Jaenke wrote:
>> That's MY opinion. Not necessarily yours. I can't get a system without
>> RedHat preinstalled from VA Research last I checked, they never returned
>> my calls, so as far as I'm concerned, they're about as good a company as
>> Compaq or Microsoft. They're more concerned about PR via donations, and
>> making money, than they are about customer service.
>>From what I've seen of some VA people on the lists, they're quite helpful
>(eg Chris Dibona - is there a mailing list he ISN'T on?).  VA isn't a
perfect
>company, but they're far from evil...they're still growing, from what I've
heard
>they've like quadrupled the amount of employees, and are having some
growing pains...
>
>As for preinstallation, let me make two points:
>a) Debian really has a long way to go for someone to do mass installs of
it, unattended.
>b) Even if they DID ship debian preinstalled, how long would you keep it on
the machine?
>   Especially since you have remarked that part of your job is security
auditing?  For me,
>   it would probably be about one boot away from being fdisk'd and
reinstalled - one
>   reason to do it would be to set up the partitions the way I want.
>
>Also consider this, linux.com is a 100%-debian drive site - from the
impressions I've
>gotten, the VA people are really big on Debian, but for the reasons above
aren't doing
>preinstalls of it.  Don't be so quick to judge things.



Agreed, there are people at VA that are Debian bigots just like the rest of
us.

And Red Hat? Gnome, Video4Linux, Enlightenment, rpm... they put a lot into
the Linux community.

Mark


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