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Quoting Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca>:
> The sections have been clearly separated for a long time.  In fact,
> that's whole reason for the beginning of this thread: someone
> complaining that certain software was not in main.  I said, there was
> no practical difference and almost everyone jumped on me for saying
> that.  Clearly there was a big difference in the minds of people.

I disagree with this.  They may have been seperated but not from a 
user standpoint.  When I first started playing with Debian I only saw
a package list...I payed no attention to main,contrib,non-free...
I considered it to be US and non-US...and that's it.


> 
> If Debian wants to more clearly separate things, why not go the whole
> way and get rid of contrib and non-free altogether?  That would send a
> clear nonhypocritical unambiguous message and has the advantage of
> eliminating political nonsense.  Though I guess that would require
> modifying the Debian pledge and that means more political stuff.


I can see this for non-free, but not contrib...contrib just needs to 
be controlled and should be treated like non-US is.  

non-free on the other hand definatly need to be moved off to a seperate
hostname and not included in the base install and whatnot...

for example..you install Debian for the first time (slink) and what does 
/etc/apt/sources.list have in it???

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free

why is this?  It shouldn't be...it should be just main and possibly contrib

non-free shouldn't even be mentioned except for maybe a new section on
www.debian.org under packages/distribution which talks about how to get
other non-free/non-debian-supported packages.

Ivan


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