On Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 02:55:22PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > First of all, I am pleased with the comments you sent already.They > nicly add to the picture I got of you so far. Thanks! > JC> On Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 02:43:54AM -0500, Mitch Blevins wrote: > >> How old are you? > > JC> I am 20 years old. I must say that I don't like that question and > JC> consider it somewhat unfair as it assumes that age is relevant. I > JC> do not believe it is. Does it matter if I am 16 or 60 if I am > JC> otherwise a responsible person and well-suited to the tasks of the > JC> position? > > I do belive it is valid together with the other questions about what > you did. > > I don't want to vote for a leader, who just left school and don't know > the "real world". They tend to be quite naiv about some things (I was > as well). Yes, I know, even in school one can get much experiance with > this some time. Thous this question is only valid together with the > other questions. > > Debian and its leader has to deal with a community and also with > companies. He has to know about the strings of power present when > people work together and how to control these and make use of them for > the good of the project. This is real life experiance needed here. I still disagree that age has any relevance, but I can understand why you would think has a little or even a lot of relevance. Experience is a good thing, certainly. But I have found time and again that age and experience seldom go hand-in-hand. > JC> Slashdot is really the only place more public than Debian's lists > JC> that I make my voice heard. I would of course be willing to watch > JC> what I say and be sure that my comments won't reflect badly on > JC> Debian, even moreso than I do now (since my @debian.org email > JC> address is attached to each comment) but I would be unwilling to > JC> simply stop posting comments because some feel it would be best if > JC> someone in my position not be heard from other than as an official > JC> representative of the project. > > leader@debian.org Ian introduced is really good. And the leader must > be able to express his opinion not speaking as the leader. Of cause > the two opinions should be somewhat in line. But I don't believe you > will only be calm when you post as leader :-) I'd certainly try to be. Often times I let my email express my feelings too much, but I am extremely careful about this when writing as a representative of others. An example being an email campaign. There are enough people sending flames and wonderfully creative comments like "you suck" (ow, that has to hurt, gee) that I feel it is necessary to send a very calm message, whether or not I am in a calm state. I've been taking diplomacy lessons from lilo I guess. => > >> In other words, a relatively quiet DPL is a good DPL. > > JC> I disagree. This seems to be Ian's philosophy and it isn't > JC> working as well as a more active role would. > > Linux is getting momentum. So should Debian. I agree that a more > active leadership will help here. It is easier for people, if they can > refer to a specific person (in a representative sense), rather then > being faced by a monolitic Debian entity. That is what I hope to do, represent Debian's interests. > Ian did a great job in restructing the project. He is and was the > steady pole that was needed, but time changes and so does the > requirements of leadership. I haven't always agreed with Ian's ideas, but I think after Bruce left Ian is probably what we needed. > When Bruce was leader, I was just a user, so I can't fully judge his > leadership. But I was quite impressed, when he answered questions on > debian-users sometimes. Coming from windows I asked my collegues, if > Bill answers questions in newsgroups :-) I was really impressed about > Linux. Well Debian grew very much since then... > > When Bruce left, I checked debian-devel and saw that he wanted to *be* > Debian, not the leader. Sometimes seeing the group is imporant, sometimes seeing the leader is. I hope I can make the right choices as to when to let the group be seen as a group and when to be seen as their representative. A balancing act to be sure, but I have pretty good balance. Haven't tried walking a tightrope while juggling keyboards yet. => > The leader should respect the decision of the other developers. Even > if it is not his opinion. When the leader wants A, but the developer > decide for B, he still has to put his full support for B after the > decision. > > I like to see a leader who represents Debian to the outside more > actively, and who can set free more powers inherent to the developers. Indeed, the group's decision stands whether I agree with it or not. This is the case even now. Continuing to argue after something has been decided is only going to add stress and frustration to people's lives. > Thank you for reading, And you for posting. -- "You're despicable." -- Daffy Duck
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