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DFSG: Do we really need a rewrite? or Just clarifications? (was Re: DFSG2: The patch exception)

>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:

 Ian> Several people have complained that some important existing
 Ian> software (notably TeX) has a patch requirement.  How about if we
 Ian> have a special grandfather exception for this ?

	Umm, no. I would rather go with the deprecated/discouraged
 commentary on patch cluses, and be consistent with that, rather than
 breaking the guidelines with grandfather clauses just because some
 people peole happened to like the software in question. That goes
 against the stated goal of setting forth a clear set of guidelines. 

	I woulds also like to state for the recoord that I find the
 DFSG far easier to read than the current draft (I dislike legalese),
 and that makes for more, rather than less, confusion about

	There are a number of people, myself included, who feel queasy
 about such a drastic rewrite of the DFSG. The reasons cited for the
 rewrite have been that it is too hard to determine whether is licence
 is in compliance or no, and that the DFSG is quite vague in parts,
 and needs clarification.

	If we needs must clarify further, I would prefer leaving the
 *GUIDELINES* as they are (the DFSG), and calling the new document
 DFSC (the debian free software criterion), and state in the social
 contract that the DFSG are clarified by a working document, the DFSC,
 and the DFSC is meant to be a rules based implementation of the
 spirit of the DFSG, and mention that Debian actually follows the
 DFSC when determining whether to include packages in Debian.

	Thsi would allow us to tweak the DFSC, and try to 

	I would rather not have to go through the process of
 explaining our rewrite of what is increasing a mainstream, defining
 document for free software.

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