On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 12:02:52AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes: > > Ian> Several people have complained that some important existing > Ian> software (notably TeX) has a patch requirement. How about if we > Ian> have a special grandfather exception for this ? > > Umm, no. I would rather go with the deprecated/discouraged > commentary on patch cluses, and be consistent with that, rather than > breaking the guidelines with grandfather clauses just because some > people peole happened to like the software in question. That goes > against the stated goal of setting forth a clear set of guidelines. Definitely agreed. > > I woulds also like to state for the recoord that I find the > DFSG far easier to read than the current draft (I dislike legalese), > and that makes for more, rather than less, confusion about > licences. Also agreed, the fact that I've been able to look over a few licenses myself well looking at the DFSG, and been able to then point out where the license violates the DFSG, is very important to me... > > There are a number of people, myself included, who feel queasy > about such a drastic rewrite of the DFSG. The reasons cited for the > rewrite have been that it is too hard to determine whether is license > is in compliance or no, and that the DFSG is quite vague in parts, > and needs clarification. Yes, the DFSG needs clarification, NOT a rewrite, and even worse not a rewrite which is much harder to read and understand then the DFSG1.. > > If we needs must clarify further, I would prefer leaving the > *GUIDELINES* as they are (the DFSG), and calling the new document > DFSC (the debian free software criterion), and state in the social > contract that the DFSG are clarified by a working document, the DFSC, > and the DFSC is meant to be a rules based implementation of the > spirit of the DFSG, and mention that Debian actually follows the > DFSC when determining whether to include packages in Debian. *wince*, leaving us with two, possabley conflicting in areas, documents, adding confusion.. > > Thsi would allow us to tweak the DFSC, and try to > > I would rather not have to go through the process of > explaining our rewrite of what is increasing a mainstream, defining > document for free software. Agreed.. Zephaniah E, Hull. > > manoj > -- > Without coffee he could not work, or at least he could not have > worked in the way he did. In addition to paper and pens, he took > with him everywhere as an indispensable article of equipment the > coffee machine, which was no less important to him than his table or > his white robe. Stefan Zweigs, Biography of Balzac > Manoj Srivastava <email@example.com> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> > Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to firstname.lastname@example.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact email@example.com > -- PGP EA5198D1-Zephaniah E, Hull <firstname.lastname@example.org>-GPG E65A7801 Keys available at http://whitestar.soark.net/~warp/public_keys. CCs of replies from mailing lists are encouraged.
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