On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 12:02:52AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
>
> Ian> Several people have complained that some important existing
> Ian> software (notably TeX) has a patch requirement. How about if we
> Ian> have a special grandfather exception for this ?
>
> Umm, no. I would rather go with the deprecated/discouraged
> commentary on patch cluses, and be consistent with that, rather than
> breaking the guidelines with grandfather clauses just because some
> people peole happened to like the software in question. That goes
> against the stated goal of setting forth a clear set of guidelines.
Definitely agreed.
>
> I woulds also like to state for the recoord that I find the
> DFSG far easier to read than the current draft (I dislike legalese),
> and that makes for more, rather than less, confusion about
> licences.
Also agreed, the fact that I've been able to look over a few licenses
myself well looking at the DFSG, and been able to then point out where
the license violates the DFSG, is very important to me...
>
> There are a number of people, myself included, who feel queasy
> about such a drastic rewrite of the DFSG. The reasons cited for the
> rewrite have been that it is too hard to determine whether is license
> is in compliance or no, and that the DFSG is quite vague in parts,
> and needs clarification.
Yes, the DFSG needs clarification, NOT a rewrite, and even worse not a
rewrite which is much harder to read and understand then the DFSG1..
>
> If we needs must clarify further, I would prefer leaving the
> *GUIDELINES* as they are (the DFSG), and calling the new document
> DFSC (the debian free software criterion), and state in the social
> contract that the DFSG are clarified by a working document, the DFSC,
> and the DFSC is meant to be a rules based implementation of the
> spirit of the DFSG, and mention that Debian actually follows the
> DFSC when determining whether to include packages in Debian.
*wince*, leaving us with two, possabley conflicting in areas,
documents, adding confusion..
>
> Thsi would allow us to tweak the DFSC, and try to
>
> I would rather not have to go through the process of
> explaining our rewrite of what is increasing a mainstream, defining
> document for free software.
Agreed..
Zephaniah E, Hull.
>
> manoj
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