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Re: Ian's DFSG2 would harm Debian and Free Software

On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> > Ian's DFSG2 would harm Debian and Free Software
> > 
> > The new version of the DFSG, as proposed by Ian Jackson, would have
> > disastrous consequences on the public image of Debian, and would lead to
> > a split of the free software movement, if not Debian itself.
> > I'll take the time and sketch how this step would be received/seen by
> > the public.
> I was right with you up to this point, but the rest of your argument is
> pure conjecture, lacking facts, and doesn't correctly address the problems
> with Ian's proposal.
> Don't get me wrong. I am against the changes as well, but for completely
> different reasons.

i'm against the DFSG2 changes too, but not because i think they were
created just to prevent Qt & KDE from getting in to debian (as Ian has
said, he has been opposed to the patch clause in the DFSG for a long
time...and i agree with him, the patch clause prevents forking which is
one of the important freedoms of free software).

my reason for not wanting to change the DFSG is that Ian's proposal
replaces a simple, easy to understand set of guidelines written in plain
english with a complicated piece of legalese sounding bullshit.

The DFSG as it is now is a set of guidelines.  The proposed DFSG2 reads
like rules. fuck rules.


craig sanders

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