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Re: gdselect alpha 3



Quoting Manoj Srivastava (srivasta@datasync.com):
> >>"Michael" == Michael Stone <mstone@itri.loyola.edu> writes:
>  Michael> Quoting Jason Gunthorpe (jgg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca):
>  >> I think this idea of 'lets quickly do something fast' is ill concieved and
>  >> is ultimately going to hurt our image. I've looked at the latest version,
>  >> it looks rather pretty, it's slightly more functional than dselect but
>  >> that's about it.. It doesn't support any of the more sophisticated things
>  >> that people are clamoring for, and it requires X, GTK and a wack of ram. 
[snip]
>  Michael> Perhaps an incremental approach is good: a good gui for the
>  Michael> existing product in this release, other features in other
>  Michael> releases. Maybe apt will be better, but we haven't seen it
>  Michael> yet (referring to the UI). Apt's been in development for a
>  Michael> long time, maybe some friendly competition will help. And
>  Michael> why can't we have multiple UI's to the package management
>  Michael> system? This is linux: one size doesn't fit all.
> 
> 	Competition is fine, let it get time to mature. The idea is
>  simple: no new code after freeze. let this new system vie with apt at
>  the next release.

I didn't mean to argue that gdselect should necessarily ship now; by
release I meant "this release of gdselect." What I was trying to answer
was an attitude that seemed to be saying "we shouldn't do anything about
dselect until we have a solution that not only provides a decent gui,
but also everything else." (Which I took to mean automatic package
dselection, superpackages, seamless x/tty transition, and everything
else that apt is supposed to provide.) Some people just want a gui, and
I think it's reasonable to provide it. It's not fair to compare gdselect
with what apt is supposed to be, if for no other reason than that
they're not trying to acheive the same goals.

BTW, since I don't see how gdselect could be used on initial
installation anyway, I don't think it would hurt to leave it off the
cd's and make it available for download later. We can call it a beta or
whatever, but those who want it could still use it.

Mike Stone


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