Hi all, If, as suggested, daemons and clients are split up then the client should at least suggest the daemon IMHO: otherwise a newbie may well only install the client... Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/