Re: Contradictions for new developers (Was: what are the latest debian packaging tools.
Hi,
>>"Stephane" == Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@pasteur.fr> writes:
Stephane> On Friday 4 September 1998, at 14 h 12, the keyboard of Manoj Srivastava
>> srivasta@datasync.com> wrote:
>> You realize, I hope, that debmake is deprecated by its author,
>> and is no longer being in kept in sync with policy. So anyone using
>> deb-make may have packages that do not conform to policy anymore.
Stephane> On Friday 4 September 1998, at 14 h 8, the keyboard of Manoj Srivastava
>> srivasta@datasync.com> wrote:
>> The packaging HOWTO is a part of the core Policy documents,
>> and is no longer orphaned.
Stephane> Well, this is a very good example of the problems faced by
Stephane> new Debian developers. Because the packaging HOWTO, which
Stephane> is not orphaned, according to what you say, suggests the
Stephane> use of debmake and does not mention deb-helper at all.
Before you start jumping all over me, the package had indeed
been orphaned, and it became unorphaned this week. The package is
still undergoing the technical changes required to make it maintained
by the policy mailing list. No changes have yet been made.
Stephane> I don't want to blame anybody, I know that all Debian
Stephane> packagers work for free and that they are overworked
Stephane> enough. But I think it's important that all developers are
Stephane> aware that, for a new developer coming in, it is *really*
Stephane> difficult, as exemplified by the recent discussion on
Stephane> debian-mentors, to get into the party.
We are all aware of it. When we became developers, we did not
have all the help that is available now; we know how difficult it can
be.
Stephane> Out of date documents, incomplete documents (the devscripts
Stephane> package which is not mentioned), documents which, according
Stephane> to Manoj, contradicts the policy, etc are the obstacles
Stephane> they encounter.
Do I hear an offer of providing the changes to the document
so that future maintainers do not have to face this? Yes? Any patches
shall be gratefully incorporated into the document.
manoj
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