Re: Debian Free Software (FSF) or Open Source? (was Re; non-cd...)
Kysh Dragon wrote:
>
> Linus Torvalds uses RedHat.
>
> Frankly, I prefer the GPL founder.
I belive in a mix of GPL and what Openm Source is trying to do.
>
> > With the new Open Source movement I think it is time to reexamine your
> > true mission. If you want to create a pure GNU system than continue
> > what you are doing. However if you want to have an active role in the
> > Open Source movement--that Linus supports--than I see the debain
> > philosophy as a major roadblock if kept unchanged. Chances are more
> > major linux programs will use free (but not free to debian standards) to
> > accularate development.
>
> The debian philosophy is what makes debian great. Just because someone
> comes along and says 'Gee, I don't like the term 'free software', let's
> call it 'open source' and say that it's something new' doesn't mean that
> those who have been fighting for freedom since the beginning have to just
> follow along like lambs after a straying ewe or bail out altogether.. By
> no means. No, the Debian philosophy is a good philosophy.
Um, Larry Wall, Brian Behlendorf, Linus Torvalds, Eric Allman, Paul
Vixie, John Ousterhout all seam to have...
> > What it really boils down to is what movement Debian wishes to support.
> >
> > 1) The Free Software Foundation and GNU in which making debian into a
> > totally free and always free OS is the most important goal
> >
> > or
> >
> > 2) The Open Source Movement is which promoting linux and the open source
> > concept is formost. This may mean bending the rules a little here and
> > there and perhaps modifying some of the fundamental principles a bit to
> > better promote debian.
>
> `To better promote debian', or to try to change the world with the power
> of free software. The choice is yours. I vastly prefer to see free
> software prosper. If all the major distributions died tomorrow, where
> would the open source movement be? By the way you word it, defunct, dead,
> desolate.
Maybe, but I don't think that would really happen.
> Freedom is truly the only choice. One who surrenders a bit of freedom for
> a bit of security soon finds themself with none of either.
>
> > So which one does Debian which to support FSF or Open Source? I really
> > hope it is Open Source...
> >
> > If it is clear that debian wishes to stick to the FSF and GNU principles
> > than I might just create my own distribution. However I rather not as I
> > think that would be really counter productive.
>
> There is nothing stopping one from doing whatever one wants, including
> creating one's own distribution... by the FSF standards. The open source
> standards are a bit less open. By your own standards, strictly
> interpreted, your distribution that you set out to create might be brought
> down before it started with legal, political and technical issues.
If I do I would make damm sure that it is ok to include certain non-free
packages such as Qt. If their is any doubt and it is not importent than
I would not include it.
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