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Re: Proposal: /etc /usr/etc /usr/local/etc

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Bill Mitchell wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote:

> > Dpkg diversions can do that right now (I've been playing with that
> > stuff these days for my packaging of Linuxconf and it works really
> > well).  You can invoke dpkg-divert to move the file from /etc to
> > /usr/etc and dpkg will update it there when upgrading.
> That allows for clean upgrades of the system without messing up the configuration.

> Does it respect the FSSTND requirement that symlinks be left
> behind in /etc in this situation?  (I haven't been trying it,
> but I'd guess not)

AFAIU, that's not the requirement.  FSSTND also allows to just put
config files in /usr/etc.

> Also, Vadim Vygonets has questioned whether debian should support
> install-time diversion of conffiles from /etc to /usr/etc (or
> vice-versa) at all.  Vadim sugggests (my paraphrase) that the
> package maintainer'splacement of conffiles should be considered
> final, and that relocation of conffiles between /etc and /usr/etc
> should be considered illegal and unsupported.

I just see no reason to move files that belong to /usr/etc to /etc.
If you see any reason, please tell me (because many people base their
answers on some thought that the reason exists, but nobody told me),
and then, maybe we will support the relocation.

> To me, it looks like debian installation and administration in a
> networked environment has anumber of unresolved issues which are
> more basic than conffiles placement.  It seems logical to me that
> the more basic issues should be resolved first, and discussion of
> these conffiles placement questions could/should be postponed until
> resolution of these more basic issues makes them more timely.  In the
> meantime, those debian developers who are actually using debian in a
> networked environment with the debian machines sharing a common /usr
> filesystem are breaking new ground, and are probably doing a lot of
> install/admin work manually which ought to be automated.  Their
> experience, fed back to the group, can be a big help in getting
> debian ready for prime time in a networked enviornment.

Let's come to a solution.  Please post what you think about the
networking issues, and which issues must be resolved.  I agree that
Debian is not built for networking environments.


Vadim Vygonets * vadik@cs.huji.ac.il * vadik@debian.org * Unix admin
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