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Re: Supertuxkart 0.9 moving things forward

2015-05-05 23:46 GMT+02:00 Markus Koschany <apo@gambaru.de>:
> Hi,
> I think it is time to move things forward. What I am missing in this
> discussion are bug reports. If you think that Debian should diverge from
> upstream and remove game content, then you really should file a bug
> report and explain why. Someone has already proposed a patch. Please
> attach it to that bug report.
> Although Supertuxkart is maintained by the Debian Games Team there are
> real human beings who spend their free time to improve the gaming
> experience for all of us. In this case Vincent Cheng is the sole active
> maintainer and he should decide if he wants to accept patches and
> diverge from upstream or if he prefers to follow the upstream
> development of the game. After all removing game content should never be
> taken lightly. In consequence it means more work for the maintainer and
> other users might become upset that Debian gratuitously modifies games.
> More bug reports are inevitable.
> There was another suggestion to add parental advisory to the package
> description or the game documentation. In general I like the idea and
> think it should be further discussed. I would probably use a new DebTag
> to document violence, sexualized content or suitability for certain age
> groups. Obviously this affects all media content distributed by Debian
> and not only games, so a general solution would be preferable.
> In my opinion all depicted cartoonish characters of Supertuxkart 0.9 are
> harmless and I don't share the concerns voiced during the past days.
> However I accept that there are people who are seriously concerned about
> this game content.
> I believe that Debian should only censor or remove content and thus
> diverge from upstream in those situations where it is absolutely clear
> that the content in questions is immoral or widely condemned by most
> human beings or when it is agreed that it would violate laws in most, if
> not all countries.
> I don't think this is the case with Supertuxkart. I believe the best way
> is to discuss these matters with upstream, move the discussion to them
> and get involved in the further development of the game.
> Some people have quoted Debian's social contract "Our priorities are our
> users and free software". Please don't forget that the developers of
> Supertuxkart are also part of this community and they have done a
> remarkable and outstanding job in the last decade. For all who have
> quarrels with them, please remember their contributions, they are not
> our enemy.

Thanks for your sensible mail, Markus.

Just for the record, I've been talking with upstream for a couple of
days now, and they are friendly and approachable.

I have also written a new blog post telling the other side of the story.


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