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Re: Unteralterbach



On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Gerfried Fuchs <rhonda@deb.at> wrote:
>         Hi!
>
>  I only want to add a single message to this whole situation:
>
> * Bas Wijnen <wijnen@debian.org> [2014-03-13 00:46:45 CET]:
>> (Nils said he was subscribed, so there's no need to Cc him.)
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 08:16:55PM +0100, Mateusz Jończyk wrote:
>> > No, Debian should not in distribute the illegal scenes at all neither suggest them.
>> > That would make the distribution much more risky.
>>
>> I tend to agree with that.  If Nils really wants this, however, I'll
>> leave the decision about this to ftpmasters.  (By asking them directly,
>> of course, not by trying to sneak this past them.)  No need to discuss
>> this on the list; we'll work it out, and, I'll speak for myself, I'll
>> try hard to make sure nobody is surprised if the package enters Debian
>> (but I'm also pretty sure not everybody will be happy, judging by the
>> discussion.)
>
>  Given the fuzz this all already produced, and by the extremely sensible
> mail that Russ wrote, let me quote him here:
>
> ,---------------------------> Russ Allbery <---------------------------
> | I think it would be great to have other packages of the same software type
> | but with different content in Debian.  Just not this particular content
> | profile, which should be handled by people who know what they're getting
> | into, can focus on this specific type of collision between free speech and
> | other social issues, and don't have other goals that would be put at risk
> | by getting into the middle of this fight.
> `---------------------------> Russ Allbery <---------------------------
>
>  To make sure that all involved people who want to pursue with execising
> their right to free speech are deciding this for themself I would ask to
> NOT have this packaged under the Games Team umbrella.  Doing so would
> mean to decide for all the Games Team members that they "know what
> they're getting into, can focus on this specific type of collision
> between free speech and other social issues, and don't have other goals
> that would be put at risk by getting into the middle of this fight."
>
>  I personally do not have the impression that everyone involved with the
> Games Team are able to focus on that, either simply not willing for
> whatever reason, or don't have the strength to carry it through.  I know
> for myself that I do not want to be attached to it, and I guess others
> might have similar feelings.  Please respect this and do not do this
> under the Games Team umbrella.

I'd of course rather not see this packaged in Debian _at all_ (I think
my earlier mails to the list made my position very clear), but yes, I
also agree with the above; if you (Nils) insist on packaging this in
Debian, please don't do so within the Debian Games team.

Regards,
Vincent


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