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Re: Thank you for your work, Ian


On Wed, 2014-11-19 at 13:08 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
>I am resigning from the Technical Committee with immediate effect.
Again, what a shame :-(

Thanks for all your work, I'd say the same what I've just written about
Russ applies to you as well.
You far-sight and technical knowledge will be deeply missed.

I can fully understand that you feel very exhausted, especially since
you've seemed to have become the direct target for many accusations and
political issues.
But especially since you "represent" the views of quite a number of DDs
and also users of Debian, your resignation at this point is even more

While personally I think systemd should be the default in Debian (well
at least if it would be used in a way not just to rebuild sysvinit in
systemd - but to use its full potential), and while I think that legacy
systems should migrate to it on upgrade (unless people opt-out), I fully
agree with your opinions about init-system-coupling, etc..

In the long term, the majority may simply destroy the basis of minority
and of diversity.
Likely we've already seen first signs of this with what's happening to

When a majority (or at least a larger group) has a strong technical
and/or political agenda, others (whose wishes and technical views aren't
less valid or important) often have to suffer and diversity dies.
I don't want to imply that groups like GNOME would do this intentionally
or in bad faith, not at all,... it simply happens as a side effect of
being a big group, powerful or even the majority.
GNOME seems to largely focus on desktop/single user models and to fully
focus on systemd - so in the long term other projects will have to
follow that or be less supported, or suffer show-stopper issues.
This doesn't mean GNOME=evil, it just means the consequences of their
decisions may very well affect others to a great deal and especially
have a negative impact on diversity.

Right now of course, all this seems to be a rather political and
uncertain issue (which is also among the reasons why the TC and you were
so heavily attacked) - but it can very well be, that the political
questions of today, become the technical problems of tomorrow - only
that it's likely to late then.

In real world politics, there are laws to protect minorities - Debian
apparently is to frightened of making such "laws" at the moment :-(
I'd guess in the long-term this will mean a big loss for Debian and for
FLOSS at large.

> I myself am
> clearly too controversial a figure at this point to do so.
Mhh to me it seems that you were made that controversial figure largely
for political reasons.

Actually, such actions seemed to have become more common (on all sides)
- people threatening to fork Debian
- people threatening to leave it
- people abusing CoC other other things to silence others

> The majority of the project
The majority of those who took part in voting!

> I now hope to spend more of my free software time doing programming.
> dgit is at the top of my Debian queue, but some of my GNU and SGO
> projects could do with attention too.
Good to not see you leaving Debian :)

Thanks as well for all your efforts, especially for fighting for your
"controversial" beliefs,

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