Bug#727708: multiple init systems - formal resolution proposal

Subject: Bug#727708: multiple init systems - formal resolution proposal

From: James Rhodes <jrhodes@redpointsoftware.com.au>

Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:11:22 +1100

Message-id: <CADdamQZbehgbLLjchVQUSm8oHQjWVr3OiX5gpORQuNFSPws5Dg@mail.gmail.com>

Reply-to: James Rhodes <jrhodes@redpointsoftware.com.au>, 727708@bugs.debian.org

In-reply-to: <20140129235411.7bc361b8@ileemo>

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On 30 January 2014 09:54, Andrew Shadura <andrew@shadura.me> wrote:

Hello,

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 19:17:29 +0100
Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> wrote:

> Gnome-shell uses GDM for screen locking, and GDM heavily relies on
> logind nowadays. There is fallback code that uses ConsoleKit, but it
> has been untested for several major releases, and now fails even for

> trivial things. Add to that the fact that ConsoleKit itself has been

> unmaintained for quite some time, making it unsuitable for a new
> stable release that needs maintenance for several more years

That only confirms the fact GNOME developers can't even keep their code
working, not even speaking about testing its interoperability with
most common environments. That doesn't create a good reputation, you
know.

Why do you expect GNOME developers to maintain support for ConsoleKit, when it's been deprecated and unmaintained for several years? It's not the responsibility of the GNOME developers to pick up maintenance of ConsoleKit and to suggest that not doing this is representative of their quality as developers is borderline offensive.

GNOME developers do keep their code working, against what they've stated they will support. That happens to be logind.

(Apologies if I'm not replying to this bug correctly as it's my first time emailing against a Debian bug)

Regards, James.

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