Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:14:48AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Chris Knadle writes ("Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the
> > > On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > What we'd like to do in the meantime, is let the mumble version from
> > > >
> > > > unstable transition to testing now. That will:
> > > > - Unbreak the server for everyone, which currently won't work at all.
> > > > - Break the client for people using ancient servers, and who are
> > > >
> > > > talking to people without opus support. ie. not everyone, but a
> > > > fair number of people who haven't yet moved, or who can't convince
> > > > their friends to move yet. You know the deal there.
> > >
> > > I'm still not opposed to the plan (because I still think it's the
> > > best option discussed), but I think it might hurt a bit more than
> > > perhaps we anticipated in the very-short-term before the version of
> > > the Mumble client with the Speex codec is available.
> > I'm not sure I follow this conversation but it seems to be a plan to
> > switch to yet a different codec.
> Yes, one that used to be supported in Mumble until recently in low-bandwidth
Yes, it's not a *different* codec. it is one that was also always supported
prior to that support being removed upstream in the last few weeks.
But I already said this. Ian, did you not actually read what I already wrote?
> > How will this interact with mumble in other distros, who are
> > presumably following mumble upstream's advice to use celt 0.7.1 as a
> > baseline ?
> According to Nicos in his last email, not well. The problem with the idea is
> that Speex is not part of the codec selection mechanism in existing clients,
> and will thus cause similar issues.
Nicos hasn't talked to Thorvald yet. The solution to that problem is what
Thorvald will be implementing when he gets back, and he thinks he can do it
in a way that will be backward compatible for all clients.