Re: Please let's not talk about "clouds"
1) Allowing our users the freedom to run Debian on rented remote
physical or virtual servers, if that is their desire.
Given that the software is free, this follows automatically.
by building Debian images for
Amazon EC2, Microsoft Azure, and with others on the way, including
Google Compute Engine.
No harm in doing this, but please don't use the word "cloud" to
describe it. Please call them "images for virtual servers".
2) Facilitating people to use existing Free Software to build "Private
Clouds" using software like CloudStack, Eucalyptus and OpenStack on
top of Debian.
Presuming these are free software, there's no reason not to include
them in a distro. They are useful. But if the idea is that the user
uses his own servers, please don't use the term "cloud" to describe
These two activities are entirely separate. To think of them as
related is a consequence of the incoherent concept of "the cloud".
To help people think clearly, please don't describe them as "Debian
cloud" activities. Please talk about them as two separate and
For the same reason, this mailing list shouldn't exist either.
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call