On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 05:10:58PM +1100, Chris Fordham wrote: > >Other answers were very relevant, but how about adding "official" > >in the name so that we can recommend to search for "official debian" ? > Have we ratified what the official Debian AMIs are yet and how they > are provided? > How do we define that and I would assume that those AMIs would need > to be in an AWS account owned by Debian unless there is an official > sponsor (has Debian ever had commercial investment..). The images we are talking about *are* the official ones. Full stop. They are so in the sense that we entered in an agreement with Amazon as Debian, via James that I've delegated to that end; you can indeed notice that the "seller" profile on the marketplace is Debian https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/seller-profile/ref=srh_res_product_vendor?ie=UTF8&id=890be55d-32d8-4bc8-9042-2b4fd83064d5 The plan is to reference the images from the official Debian website under www.d.o/distrib (I've spoken just yesterday with representatives of the -www team and I've a forthcoming mail for this list about that topic in the working, stay tuned...). > The last thing we want is calling something official and then it > disappearing because an AWS bill wasn't paid by a contributor or > what not. As far as I can tell that risk is off the table. Debian is offered for free on the marketplace. If the user do not pay _AWS_, i.e. do not pay for the resource usage as opposed to the software cost (which is zero), that is a problem between Amazon and the user. The only responsibility we take is for the software we distribute as "Debian", but that is no news, we already bear that responsibility by distributing Debian via all our channels (the archive, installation media, hw vendors with Debian pre-installed, etc.). Regarding Charles mention of adding "official", I don't think we should do so to ramp up in the ranking. I think we should ask Amazon to list us more prominently, after all one of the main points of being in the marketplace is precisely to avoid being confused with the "AMI soup" of all non official AMIs prepared by others. The fact we are the only "seller" who can be called "Debian" should give enough officially. From there, is a matter of making our voice heard within Amazon. Also, I've reviewed my past conversations with the Amazon folks, and both myself and James were under the impression that Debian will be listed as a "Quick Start" image. So I assume the fact we are not listed there is only temporary. James: do you want to raise this with our Amazon peers, or should I? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . zack@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club »
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