# Re: release-notes.zh_CN

From: Ming Hua <minghua@rice.edu>

> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 06:00:16PM +0100, Danai SAE-HAN wrote:
> >
> > From: Ming Hua <minghua@rice.edu>
> >
> > > > From: Ming Hua <minghua@rice.edu>
> > >
> > > > I'm convinced that the angle from which we should make up such
> > > > typesetting rules should be from a LaTeX perspective.  It is after all
> > > > the engine which finally produces the PDF documents.  The (X)HTML
> > > > language is still too much in its infancy in order to distill
> > > > typographical rules from it.
> > > >
> > > > I have a few suggestions.
> > > [specific LaTeX typesetting suggestions]
> > >
> > > For the case in point, Debian release notes is written in Debian SGML,
> > > and both the HTML and LaTeX are auto-generated.  So I suppose using the
> > > specific LaTeX CJK typesetting syntax is not really practical here.
> >
> > LaTeX output is indeed auto-generated, but I think SGML is flexible
> > enough to allow CJK breakable spaces.  Don't we just have to create
> > new entities?  My way of thinking is this: LaTeX produces the most
> > sophisticated but also the most technically challenging output.  If
> > SGML can manage to handle CJK LaTeX, then the other formats should be
> > easy to convert to.
>
> Sure, we can generate correct CJK LaTeX from SGML, but that probably
> needs work (I don't really know).  My point is, as SGML is also the
> source of the HTML, we can't put, for example, the CJK space "~" in the
> SGML file, because although LaTeX can handle it, HTML can't, and
> therefore we'll end up with a bunch of literal "~" characters in the
> HTML output.
>
> And if you are suggesting using entities like "&cjkspace;" in the SGML,
> then I'll probably object.  It's too cumbersome and counter-intuitive
> for spaces that are so frequently used.

I don't think it's too cumbersome if the entity's name is
abbreviated.  Or we could just use "~" in the SGML source and then use
sed to change it all in "&cjkspace;" when processing it to other
formats, and use \tilde for real tildes.

Point is that a text should not only be informative, but also be
written in a structural way.  That's the power of markup languages
such as SGML and TeX.  If it wasn't, then we could just return to
writing plain texts without much further ado.  We need to help the
computer to make the right decisions, and inserting an extra entity
will do that.

My two "mao". ;)

Best regards

Danai SAE-HAN

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