Hi, Here's an update on this: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> (2025-05-25): > From what I've just gathered, both desktop environments are supposed to > be in a good shape already (i.e. we're not talking about building > something new, from scratch, with bad or unknown quality), and at least > one of them is planning on asking for an exception on the debian-edu > side anyway (for education-desktop-lomiri). (https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2025/05/msg00411.html) ---- There was some feedback by various team members, which led me to try and integrate both branches in a suitable way, and if a green light were to be given, we should be ready: - https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2025/05/msg00484.html (proposed integration) - https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2025/05/msg00486.html (Guido Günther, for Phosh) - https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2025/05/msg00496.html (Mike Gabriel, for Lomiri) Both teams seem to be fine with the results, and that should also address initial concerns regarding automated testing (inserting new desktop environments into random spots would require updating the tests to ensure picking the right entry…): - https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2025/05/msg00481.html > I'm very ambivalent about this: there was some kind of lack of noticing > on the installer team part (but then as I explained in one of my > follow-ups, I don't think it's fair to expect people to notice and/or > act on all bug reports in the first place, even less so on merge > requests), but also some kind of a failure on the submitter side, not > poking us before the soft freeze began… > > Besides feeling a bit guilty about the situation, I don't have any > strong opinion regarding what to do, so I thought I'd ask what you > think, and go with whatever decision you come up with: if the release > team calls this “too late, no good reason to deviate from the freeze > policy”, I'm perfectly fine with it; if the release team is fine with an > exception, I'm happy to get that reviewed, merged, and uploaded. I'm still ambivalent about this, and I still don't want to push in either direction. I'll just mention that reviewing, merging, and also adjusting… is all done as far as I'm concerned. The remaining question is whether that's for trixie or forky. > In the worst case, if we were to discover some incredibly bad install > experience for one or both of them, we could probably hide them from > the selection screen, without fiddling with the package list again. I know how to show/hide and mark/unmark, in d-i and outside now… so I'm now certain we can do that. :) > Thanks for your time, and sorry again for the extra ping. Still true… Cheers, -- Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/> D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
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