Re: Are follow-up steps for Lomiri desktop required?

[Guido Günther <agx@sigxcpu.org>]

Hi,
On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 10:52:22PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> [ cc += Guido Günther ]
> 
> Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> (2025-05-26):
> > Combining this and the Phosh MR[1] ends up looking like this (1024x768):
> > 
> >   https://openqa.debian.net/tests/399843#step/choose_software/1
> > 
> > Lomiri currently appears twice, so that is 3 new entries with Phosh.
> > 
> > BTW The descriptions for the 2 Lomiri tasks need to be fixed, in order
> > to distinguish between the `desktop` and `tablet` variants, unless we
> > decided to only offer one of those via tasksel.
> 
> Thanks. I think I'd like to have a single entry to start with, maybe the
> desktop variant? I can understand how hard targeting this or that bit of
> hardware can be, but I would really expect a desktop environment to have
> components to figure that out at runtime, instead of having two different
> sets of packages.
> 
> (Thinking out loud, maybe it'd be feasible to skip one of them from d-i,
> but offer it when tasksel runs interactively — not from pkgsel —, so that
> users can switch from say task-lomiri-desktop to task-lomiri-tablet by
> running tasksel after the install? But if that's mainly about requiring
> fewer packages, as opposed to different core components, I'd think that
> reinforces my initial assessment: propose Lomiri for desktop, leaving it
> up to tablet users to either skip desktop entirely, then installing the
> -tablet task afterwards, or to buy the whole desktop and call it a day?)
> 
> 
> I haven't looked at either MRs at the moment, but I think I'd like to
> have the newest additions at the bottom of the desktop (kinda-sub)list,
> instead of having them pop up at some (seemingly) random locations in the
> existing, non-sorted list. I'd think that's only a matter of adjusting
> some priority/score/relevance integer that I vaguely remember, though, so
> that should be on the easy side of things.

Moving it to the bottom works for me. Having it listed at all would be a
good step forward for people installing on small form factors, tablets,
etc. as currently they install another DE and switch which often
confuses new users.

Although we have a tablet and phone meta package I opted to go
for the "full" one and just use one entry as that's what most people
likely want when using d-i.

Cheers,
 -- Guido

> 
> 
> Thoughts on both topics? (The first one might be a hard one, the second
> one should be mostly cosmetics?)
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org)            <https://debamax.com/>
> D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant