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Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie



On Sun 02 Jun 2013 at 20:11:48 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:

> Booting from USB has been a standard feature for ~10 years; see e.g.
> <http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/usb_booting.html#BIOS_Limitations>.
> So those machines may not be ancient but they apparently have a crap
> BIOS.  While we should probably continue to support 5 year old machines
> in general, I don't see why the default installation media should be
> held back by specific BIOS defects.

Yes, three crap BIOSs. The one on the laptop doesn't even offer to boot
from USB. The desktops do, but don't. All within your ~10 years range.

And no, I do not expect or want Debian to be held back by these
deficiencies. One of my points was that I cope with the situation
within Debian (via hd-media, for example) and that it doesn't present a
big problem at present.

Although I did not want to get thoroughly involved in it, my other point
was that a CD's size cannot be expanded but that of a USB device can be
adjusted by choosing the device. Do we want to be held back by the
constraints imposed by the capacity of a shiny disk?

Not that I am advocating abandoning CDs in Debian, but surely we must
alter focus. Either that or we continue, as we did during the Wheezy
cycle, to devote more and more effort into maintaining the status quo.


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