Re: This is getting ridiculous ...
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 12:53:52AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 09:05:53AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > I strongly object to the fact that this issue keeps being reduced to a
> > > problem between Sven and me. If other important members of the d-i team
>
> > Then please tell me who is with you on this.
>
> So that you can verbally abuse them too? I don't blame anyone for wanting
> to remain anonymous under those circumstances.
Right now i have evidence of only frans joeyh and a third unamed guy where the
ones having problems. I have since then had private conversation with at least
two or three d-i team members, who said to me they didn't support Frans
actions in this.
> > Well, i have no problem speaking with others of the d-i team, it is only
> > with you, and to some lesser degree with joeyh, that there are problems.
> > The only reason other find me exasperating is the direct cause of your
> > actions against me.
>
> I'm also a member of the d-i team, as the principal alpha porter.
Ok.
> I've put you on /ignore on IRC before, left IRC channels you were in, and
> even had to walk away from the computer once or twice because of your
> "communication style."
Well, possibly, but i can say the exact same thing about Frans, and i remember
well how aba ior someone else had to silence Frans on #debian-kernel when we
where discussing this whole mess back in marsch.
> No, Frans and Joey are not the only members of the d-i team that have a hard
> time working with you.
Ah, so you are the unnamed third one. Anyway, i guess you also don't have any
kind of exemplar communication style, just see at how you managed the whole
Vancouver mess, and how your haughty pose in your post offended many of our
porters back then, and the huge flamewar that ensued.
I also hear regular remarks on irc about for example our DPLs position in the
java flamewar and other such subjects, and our preceding DPL was well known
for being over aggressive and insulting on both irc and email.
But, that has not stopped us from doing the work that needed to be done, and
in this aspect, Frans action which you all support are an ugly precedent to
set, and a continuing abuse of the trust set in him by the project as a whole
when he became the d-i team leader.
Hurt,
Sven Luther
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