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Re: Installation Debian 3.1



Quoting Philippe Labio (philippe.labio@skynet.be):
> J'ai les deux DVD de Debian 3.1!
> J'essaie vainement d'installer!  L'!installation (tout par défaut) fonctionne
> correctement jusqu'au re-démarrage!
> Grub, Lilo ou GaG ne détectent jamais l'installation de Debian!
> J'ai trois disques. L'un avec XP Pro français!  Que j'installe Debian sur l'un
> ou l'autre des deux disques durs, au redémarrage, c'est XP qui démarre sans
> aucun choix possible!  Après 10 installations....  J'en ai ras le bol!  Avec
> RedHat (version documentation) tout a fonctionné du premier coup!  Une des
> installations m'a même obligé à re-installer XP et m'a fait perdre toutes mes
> données, y compris mon backup!
> Merci à vous pour cette saloperie!


Translation (though the rude language probably doesn't deserve it):

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I have the two Debian 3.1 DVD!

Up to now I failed to install it. The installation works flawlessly up
to the first reboot.

Then, Grub, Lilo or Gag never detect the installed Debian system.

I have 3 disks. One with the French version of Windows XP Pro. Not
matter which disk I install Debian on, XP starts with no other
possible choice. After 10 installs, I'm sick of it. With RedHat
(documentation version), everything worked well at first try. One of
my installs even forced me to reinstall XP et made me lose my data.

Thanks to you for this crap.
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First of all, Philippe, using rude language with volunteer work
usually not highly welcomed in the Free Software development world.

We understand that you went on difficult issues with your Debian
experience and we're very sorry for this.

>From your description, you probably went on a case that's not very
common (the three hard disks) and the boot loader installers did not work
as expected.

What you describe as Debian "destroying" an XP install is certainly
just an install of GRUB in place of the XP boot loader. This is
certainly *not* an overwrite of the XP install unless
you asked Debian to "Use the entire disk" on a disk that contains
XP...or redesigned the partition scheme and overwrite an XP partition.

So, Debian did not destroy your data: you either destroyed it
yourself....or just were unable to recover the XP boot loader (which
any competent Windows administrator knows how to do). You probably
solved the issue by the usual Windows user action of reinstalling the
system when one doesn't understand anymore what happens. So, please,
don't blame Debian for destroying your data.

As said, your setup is probably not well supported by the
installation system of sarge, and especially the multiple hard disks
setup. This is something we still have to improve and getting user
input is the best way we have for doing so.

Unlike Redhat or other commercial vendor, we cannot afford paying
people and hardware to test all possible combinations and we often
rely on our users to help us improving our system.

So, if you still want to really tryout Debian, I can urge you to try
the "Etch beta1" version of the installer which you will find from
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer.

Describing your setup more indetails would help as well (are the 3
disks IDE disks and which one is Windows on...and which one did you
try to install Debian on).

This answer uses English because this is the common language used by
Debian developers. If you want support in French, you can use the
debian-user-french@lists.debian.org mailing list, or the #debian-fr
channel on irc.debian.org or irc.oftc.net.






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