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Bug#298702: debian-installer: Base installation is too big - should be trimmed

| This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report
| #298702: debian-installer: Base installation is too big - should be trimmed,
| which was filed against the tasksel package.
| It has been closed by one of the developers, namely
| Frans Pop <aragorn@tiscali.nl> (reply to 298702@bugs.debian.org).
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| On Wednesday 09 March 2005 12:48, Jari Aalto wrote:
| > The basic vanilla installation (without any [x] desktop
| > etc.  selected) downloads packages from remote site that are not used
| > by average user.
| Please read this section in the installation manual [1], especially the 
| second note. The behavior described here is already in Sarge and thus 
| will be part of the RC3 installation CD's.
| [1]http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch07s02.html#install-packages

    "... If you choose 'cmanual package selection'd without selecting any
    tasks, no packages will be installed by default. This means you can
    use this option if you want to install a minimal system, but also that
    the responsibility for selecting any packages not installed as part of
    the base system (before the reboot) that might be required for your
    system lies with you."

I haven't tried this, but if it indicates complete "control" by not
installing zero, nada packages at all - I believe I was proposing
something different.

I was suggesting a trimmed down installation; especially by looking at
the current situation and asking a question "Why this installed".

"Complete control" is different and requires real expert. Improved
installation would leave out non-essential packages like development
tools which are *big* and their download time is long through modem.

| For MTA selection and PPP, I'm afraid you will have to replace or 
| uninstall the manually at that stage as they are already installed as 
| part of the base installation before the reboot. The definition of "base" 
| is not something that will be changed lightly.

The MTA or PPP were secondary. My main concern was in the other tools
and the consumed bandwith.

If there were checkboxes for MTA/PPP as well to skip them, that would
have solved those. 

| Closing your report as I feel the new option in tasksel addresses your 
| suggestions. If you disagree, please let us know.
| Thank you for your report.

If this is the "Complete control" option, please re-open this bug. I
propesed that the current install woul not just blindly load something
which happens to belong sme package category - and install them all.

This may mean some change package category handling in the installed,
unfortunately I'm only "end user" and cannot propose specific changes;
only observation from the "installer guy" point of view.


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