INSTALL REPORT (NOTE! Woody boot-floppies are *not* for the faint hearted!) Boot-Floppies: 2.3.6 (2001-06-21) Architecture: i386, idepci flavour Method: floppy install with rescue, root, drivers; net install (ftp.planetmirror.com.au; proxied) for base and standard Machine: ACER TravelMate 520iT Processor: Pentium or better Memory: 64MB Root Device: IDE (hda) Root Size: hda 4GB; hda3 (root) 400MB Base System Installation Checklist: Boot Complete [X] Keyboard Config [X] Create Partitions [X] Install kernel [X] Install drivers [X] Config drivers [ ] Config Network [X] Install Base [X] Config Base [ ] Create boot disk [ ] Reboot [X] Comments/Problems: This was the third machine I tried. The first was a random (and old) laptop with a PCMCIA netcard. That failed, since the current boot-floppies don't have any PCMCIA support, and the modules in unstable aren't compatible with the 2.2.19 kernel in unstable. The second was a desktop with an old ISA 3c509 network card. Adding the module in autodetect mode succeeded, but the card then didn't actually work. First problem was getting some disk space claimed back from the Win98 install on that machine. Defrag and FIPS *SUCK*. Win98 defrag is just plain broken (in that it doesn't seem to effectively defragment files, nor do much good at moving files away from the end of the partition); and FIPS without an effective defragger isn't much good. GNU PartEd, otoh, is much more useful; we should at least provide some parted.bin disk images, or something. (An image you could either boot or mount on /mnt and use would go down well, imo) On this machine, at least, the internal eePro netcard got automatically detected without any modules or anything. dbootstrap occassionally seems to pop up a message about something, then immediately skip on to the next thing without giving you any time to read it. That's horrible. Oddly, I got an option to use NFS to get the kernel & drivers, even though I hadn't set up my net card at that point. Seemed odd, didn't choose it to see if it worked, or died though. It's also confusing to have that called "Operating system and modules" rather than "Kernel and drivers" --- I always think that means "base system", and get confused. Also confusing is the "rescue" and "root" naming of the disks. "kernel" and "root", or "boot" and "root", or "boot-1" and "boot-2" would be more obvious, IMO. When I got to the base install, I got told to use "testing". Fine, thought I, so I did. Then I got asked "Am I sure I want to do this?" with "No" as the default. That seemed weird. debootstrap definitely needs to give a progress display with bytes downloaded or similar. And, basically, b-f's worked. So I rebooted (with the rescue floppy; I didn't care to have YA floppy, nor to put LILO on that machine). STANDARD SYSTEM INSTALLATION Installation process: HTTP, proxied Package Choice: tasksel + dselect Installation experience: base-config didn't keep what I told it, and asked me to choose a mirror again, and went straight ahead and overrode my decision to use testing and tried getting stable Packages files instead. On the other hand, it's mirror selection stuff is much more pleasant: the by country menus should've been in dbootstrap. base-config also seemed to be a little confused about my proxy settings. It managed to get them right some times (I think), but not others. Not quite sure what the deal was there. base-config shouldn't be forgetting things I've already told dbootstrap. Weirdly, the minimal boot-floppies environment is actually more functional than base. There's no wget equivalent in base. Anyway, running the apt-get dselect-upgrade by hand after quiting base-config and setting my proxy worked pretty well. There are a few things that are standard that probably shouldn't be: gcc-3.0, nfs-kernel-server, xlib6g, the debconf/stool stuff, vacation and rblcheck all seem a bit unnecessary. I didn't get most/any of base dpkg-reconfigured. gpm and iamerican seem to be the main packages in standard that insist on prompting during the install and aren't debconfed. There were a couple of complaints about /etc/mailcap being missing, and a few others too, which I didn't note down. The end result was 234MB used, which dropped to 174MB used when I ran apt-get clean. The only bad permissions I could find were in /dev, which was owned by root.aj, and had a bunch of symlinks which had group aj too. Not sure where that comes from: debootstrap's devices.tar.gz seems fine at first glance. It'd be nice if more of this report was automated for me: having base-config notice I'm installing testing/unstable (rather than stable), and fill out a template of this report from /proc/cpuinfo, uname -a, dbootstrap_settings, and whatever else would be kind of nifty. Rebooting to Windows then tells me that the bastard install has decided to fuck up my clock and put it 10 hours ahead, even though I'm pretty sure I told it that the hw clock is *NOT* in GMT. Bleh. Anyway. It worked. Relatively painlessly too. So by the looks of things, woody b-fs *do* support: i386 net installs i386 cd installs (partial) powerpc net/cd installs (CVS only) and don't support: other architectures fully floppy installs installation from base tarballs pcmcia devices Cheers, aj
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