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Re: Which task package installs gpm?

>>>>> "David" == David Starner <dvdeug@x8b4e516e.dhcp.okstate.edu> writes:

    David> On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 01:50:05PM -0400, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:
    >> Personally, I cannot imagine a system without emacs, but enough
    >> people favor the other "one true editor" that it is unreasonable to
    >> load up a newby's disk with emacs without giving him a choice.

    David> He has a choice. ae and nvi are both higher priority than emacs.

 Add that to the `yow' file!  Higher priority?  Egads!  Blatzfemme!

    >> Likewise, many people will never use tetex, so it shouldn't be pushed
    >> onto someone's disk without asking.

 But they SHOULD use teTeX.  They should be taught to use it.

    David> It's not - you always have the option of removing it, of going
    David> into dselect and chosing your packages. 

 Have you tried to do that lately?  It's a four hour job; longer to a
 newbie.  "What's teTeX?"  There's a *lot* of package descriptions to
 read there.

    David> Many people will never use nvi or many other packages that
    David> are part of a standard system. Furthermore, anyone concerned about 
    David> what's on their system should do it by hand. If you don't want to
    David> do it by hand, you get a default standard system.

 Right.  We should install a very minimal system, then display a help
 screen (and add a section to the manual if there's not one already)
 telling them how to locate software they want.  Perhaps a thing like
 that login `tip of the day' with Gnome could tell them about new
 packages??  They need to know about `apt-cache' and `apt-get' right
 away.  Also, about the WWW package search interface.... and we need
 policy and enforcement concerning package descriptions.  They need to
 be more descriptive in many cases, for search purposes as well as

 What was that `auto-apt' thing?  Hrmmm.  Sounds almost as difficult
 as the reverse dictionary lookup, where I type a definition and it
 tells me the word that I mean.

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