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Re: Impending freeze and boot-floppies

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 03:15:33PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> Matt Porter <mmporter@home.com> writes:
> > So how does the freeze affect us?  Are we a special case?
> Yes, we are special in that we can make "upstream versions" at any
> point in the freeze, or even after release.

Ok, like dpkg since it is Debian originated.

> > I'm concerned since I'm spending all my boot-floppies time fixing
> > issues related to the new busybox and leaving the two new feature
> > items (task installer and ftp/http install) alone for the moment.  I
> > find it difficult to work on new features when that damn thing won't
> > even run like it did when we released 2.2.1.
> In retrospect, we screwed ourselves with these busybox updates.  I
> didn't realize how much interdependancies we had between busybox and
> dbootstrap.  So this is directly my fault.  I'm sorry.  (BTW, I was
> working on the assumption that the release manager would consult our
> opinion on freeze, but...).

Well, I should have been vocal about my concerns, but hindsight is 20/20.

> Matt, please advise -- should we back out busybox changes or forge
> ahead?  I don't know how much further off we are from having a working
> core system with busybox 0.33.

Now that we have a Jan. 1 freeze with a fasttrack to release, my
recommendation is to continue with the new busybox.  Erik is doing a great
job fixing bugs in busybox very quickly.  I've been reporting them to 
him privately with a very fast turnaround so I think the risk of impact
the new freeze schedule is very low.  The highest risk looks to be in the
areas of new development.

It might take me two more days to have a working install at the rate I'm
moving.  I should be able to spend all my work time on it for the short

> > I'll reiterate here that I can't believe the release manager is going to
> > freeze with boot-floppies in this state.  I swear I saw Adam say at one
> > time that we wouldn't be ready for 2 months, but in another post he says
> > "feature complete" in 2 weeks.
> If I were king, I would put the freeze date at Jan 1.  I believe it
> will take until Jan 1 to have a "production quality" boot-floppies.

You've gotten your wish. :)

Matt Porter
This is Linux Country. On a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot.

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