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Re: Proposal: dump dselect for console-apt

Matt Porter <mmporter@home.com> writes:

> My recommendation only applies to what is launched after the task
> management GUI.  In non-expert mode, I don't think anything should be
> launched since it just complicates matters. The new user will just select
> "Home Computer" and when it is finished it will kick them out to the login
> prompt.

I agree with this sentiment.  A large flaw in the old system was that
the user had to pick selections, and *then* go into dselect, just do
'configure', 'update', and 'install', avoiding 'select'.  Ick!

> The advanced user will select an option that will kick them out
> to console-apt so they can search around and add a few more individual
> packages to their liking.

Or dselect ....  This talk of console-apt right now is pure vapor,
isn't it?  I'm interested in what can be done in the next 5 weeks, not
next 5 months.

> > The following excerpt from an installation script demonstrates how
> > useful it really is, at least for me;
> > 
> >    dpkg --clear-avail
> >    apt-get update
> >    dselect update
> >    dpkg --set-selections < ./selections-base
> >    dselect remove
> >    apt-get upgrade
> >    dselect install
> >    dpkg --set-selections < ./selections-addons
> >    dselect install

Many of these capabilities I never realized dselect had.  I actually
know lots of people (old RedHat users) who are new to Debian who use
dselect and like it.

Anyhow, I wonder if it would be possible to ship dselect in base
already configured to use the apt acquisition method....

> These capablities should be moved to apt since it is the next gen.  I'd
> imagine by the next (post potato) release dselect should be gone.

Maybe, maybe not.  In the context of the boot-floppies group, our job
is to do the best we can with what the distro is giving us.  If it
gives us a rockin' console-apt which everyone agrees is better, then
we would replace dselect with it (if it was small enuf).

Until then, it's not really an interesting issue to me...

.....Adam Di Carlo....adam@onShore.com.....<URL:http://www.onShore.com/>

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