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Re: Thank you [Re: Do tools &/or instructions exist?]

Quoting Richard Owlett (2013-09-04 15:40:46)
> Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >
> > If you find that you'd rather that some of those uses could be 
> > generalized - i.e. that it might make good sense for Debian as a 
> > system and community to develop and maintain support for some of the 
> > uses you tinker with on your own - _then_ bring them up on this list 
> > and let's discuss how to proceed.
> >
> > Hope that makes sense, and is not perceived as too harsh,
> >
> Not at all. Your responses have been among the most courteous I've 
> received in looking for an appropriate forum.
> You referred me to 
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends#Terminology. That was one of 
> the pages that suggested I try the debian-blends list.
> What I'm aiming at would very literally, with the narrowest 
> possible interpretation, meet "a subset of Debian that is 
> configured to support a particular target group out-of-the-box."

Fine.  Sorry for being so think-headed - I think I got it now :-)

> 1. No network capability physically exists. Installation &/or upgrades 
> will be done using optical media or flash drives.
> 2. Each machine is physically isolated, serves a single user and has a 
> single function.
> 3. One volunteer will be supervising a set of machines of widely 
> different capability. This implies that the majority of automatic 
> hardware detection will be disabled in the installer in order that set 
> of machines will "react" in common manner across the set.
> 4. Minimizing installed foot print is desired. That is a general 
> guideline to follow when making choices (prefer few vs many, simple vs 
> complex, small vs large).
> This runs contrary to the mindset that Debian (and all Linuxes) have 
> inherited from Unix of all machines being networked as a multi user 
> multi tasking multi function ...

I don't see how any of above points runs contrary to Debian mindset.

It puzzles me that you are working on a Blend, yet seem to argue that 
this _won't_ work with Debian.  I sure must've misunderstood you (again 
- sorry!).

> These are real constraints faced by actual Debian users. I've had 
> feedback as I've poked around trying to solve my own problems.

Since we are now talking about reusing your private explorations for a 
Debian Blend, it is important for others to recognize that what they are 
looking for is in fact what you are working on making here.

I suggested earlier to create a wiki page summarizing your Blend.  I 
still think that might be helpful, both to attract interest from others 
and to better clarify for yourself and peers working with you (like me, 
in this conversation) what it is you are working on.

 - Jonas

 * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt
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