On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 11:30 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 04:48:48PM +0200, Heikki Levanto wrote: > > No, I think it is typical for any distribution that is new enough not have > > made enough mistakes in the upgrade process. One of Debian's strengths is > > that they have been around for a long while, and have learned most of the > > time. I bet that in the beginning, upgrading a Debian/Stable was still a > > hazzle. > > When I installed 2.0 the first time, just getting it to install was a > hassle. The number of times through dselect's install/configure cycle > was quite a pain. I recall the dependancies of emacs were a nightmare > to get it to work out. 2.1 and newer on the other hand always seemed to > upgrade very well. > > > Sorry if I over react, but I am a bit allergic to anyone claiming something > > is "fundamentally the wrong way to do" almost anything. I guess most of the > > ways have their justifications for some situations. > > It's inefficient, and the vast majority of arguments for the design are > incorrect since it doesn't actually accomplish what people claim it is > supposed to accomplish. You end up with less well tested software, > (due to lots of variation in configurations and compile options), lots > of potential for bugs (due to people playing with compiler options they > don't understand), and the rather vocal (although probable minority of) > users who believe that because they compiled it themselves on their CPU > it must automatically run faster than if someone else compiled it for > the same CPU. Gentoo! Because you have the time! (TM) But they do have good docs and howtos. > > I am an opinionated bastard (although I believe I have valid reasons for > my opinions) and I think gentoo is a stupid waste of time with zero > purpose for existing and all you learn from it is how much time you can > waste compiling software, and you only learn that lesson when you stop > using gentoo. Everything else you could have learned quicker and better > using something like Debian if you really had an interest in learning > how to mange compilation and optimization of software and the overall > system. I imagine most gentoo users will think I am wrong, at least > until the day they move on and realize their mistake. > > > -- Damon L. Chesser damon@damtek.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser
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