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Re: apparent crashes persist.



On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:59:55AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:04:53AM -0400, hendrik@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> > After much further trying (documented to some extent in this thread) I'm 
> > back to suspecting the software again.  I've summarized the state of 
> > affairs as it's known as of now and filed it as a bug against xorg:
> > 
> >   bug #379480: Mouse and partial keyboard freeze on AMD64
> > 
> > Somehow the pattern of failure seems wrong for a hardware problem -- 
> > not really random enough, it seems to affect things that (I think)
> > are different pieces of hardware (USB mouse and pre-PS2 keyboard), and 
> > it affects things differently that (I think) are the same piece of 
> > hardware (i.e. different keyboard keys behave differently after the 
> > "crash").
> > 
> > Advice on tracking it down, and experiences others have on ASUS 
> > A8N-VM-UAYGZ motherboards are still very welcome, of course, but perhaps 
> > I should move this discussion to the xorg mainling list.
> 
> Are you using ps2 or usb mouse and keyboard?
> 
> Is the bios up to date?
> 
> What is a pre-ps2 keyboard?  ps2 keyboards have a small round 6 pin
> connector just like ps2 mice.  Old AT keyboards had a 5 pin din
> connector that was quite a bit larger.  Does anyone still use those?
> 
> Is usb legacy support enabled in the bios? (if you don't use a usb
> keyboard, try turning it off).
> 
> Which window manager are you running?  For a while I saw a lot of
> lockups when I tried to run firefox under kde.  Use anything other than
> kde, and crashes/lockups went away.  That was a few months ago though.
> Seems better now.

New news:  I found someone with the sam motherboard, and he has Linux 
working.  No crashes for him.  It turns out he is using Ubuntu Dapper.

So I burned myself an Ubuntu Dapper Draks live CD, and booted it,
and I can do some of the things that crash my Debian installation.

So it looks like we do have a software problem.

To be more sure, I'll have to install Ubuntu, and set it up to do 
everything I've got set up on Debian, including my home directory and 
user files and so forth.  I think I still have a 1G partition I can use 
for everything except /usr and /home, enough room in a volume group 
to create a new /usr, and I'll pich the same /home.  ANyone see 
disasters coming?

I should probably append a note that I get no crashes using the Ubuntu 
live CD to my bug report agains Debian xorg.  This should narrow the 
possibilities a bit.

-- hendrik

> 
> --
> Len Sorensen



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