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Re: please summarize amd64 installation steps

Hi Craig:

You may be right but let me explain, hopefully in the interest to part of the 
audience too. I am a chemist/biologist and my scope with the workstation is 
to carry out mechanical and quantum mechanical calculations on molecules. 
Which cannot be done at any useful level with a pc. Certainly I'll never have 
the time to play enough with OS to acquire the skill needed by <unstable> 
versions (although I have one of debian on my pc and I really never dropped 
on it being unusable). Therefore, recourse to a friendly flavor of amd64 may 
be the quickest and safer solution in my case.

However, the workstation is just to better exploit the time span granted by 
nature. I mean that I can set up a calculation while waiting for dinner, or 
look at the results just before going to sleep. In the institution there are 
more restrictions: cpu shared with colleagues, teaching duties, telephone, 
etc. But to perform heavy calculations the workstation will be nothing, I'll 
need a mainframe.

Talking with a mainfraime requires to be fluent in the language. It is not 
friendly and the time is pressing, colleagues want access to the console. My 
fear is that by becoming used at friendly flavors of linux, one looses that 
type of fluency. It is true that through the terminal window one can probably 
perform from friendly flavors of linux the same as from debian, but when 
pressed by time one can easily forget about terminal windows. You know that.

Anyway, I am strongly considering your very valuable suggestion because I can 
not really estimate the efforts to spend to set up with debian. And I have to 
decide quickly for not having to my side a mute beautiful workstation.


On Monday 22 May 2006 08:06, Craig Hagerman wrote:
> When I did a fresh install of Debian amd64 (couple years ago?) I
> booted from a live CD (ubuntu has a 64 bit live CD) and did everything
> from there. ie. partition the disk, create a chroot to where you want
> the deb root partition, install debootstrap etc and go from there.
> If you are that hesitant about doing an installation yourself, why
> don't you just download a copy of Ubuntu for amd64. I have computers
> running both. the differences are minor, but the installation is
> completely painless with Ubuntu, whereas I have never been able to say
> that about Debian. With Ubuntu the installation is pretty automated
> and lots of things just work ... things that I have to fight to get
> working in Debian (realplayer anyone?).
> Craig
> On 5/22/06, Francesco Pietra <frapietra@alice.it> wrote:
> > Hi all:
> > I have followed with particular attention in the last few days all issues
> > on this list related to amd64 debian installation. Just because I have
> > now finally everything ready for a fresh installation on a fresh ready
> > workstation equipped with Tyan K8WE S2895 (bearing video card Pixelview
> > 6600 256M DDR DVI and a scsi card for external devices), a couple of dual
> > amd64 opteron, and a couple of 300GB SATA HD.
> >
> > For the benefit of poor guys like me who rarely carry out software
> > installations, could you please check my projected route, and its
> > sequence, for suitability/correctness?
> >
> > 1) Start with debian installer
> > Debian testing amd64 Bin-1/ISO9660 [93 MB] (CD-ROM waiting on my machine)
> > burned from
> > debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso [93.4 MB]
> > as downloaded yesterday from
> > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
> >
> > 2)Follow substantially a netinstall according to Roberto's howto
> > http://haydn.debian.org/~intero-guest/debian-amd64-howto.html
> >
> > 3)Establish raid1. To this regard, I am at "Today 21:19:28" directions by
> > Alexander Siek. I understand Alexander has positively answered all
> > (nearly all?) criticism by Goswin. However, I must confess that i use a
> > pc with debian testing/unstable but I never established a raid before.
> > Therefore, I only hope to be able to follow Alexander's indications but
> > it would be better for me to read before some general instructions as to
> > establish a raid1. I have none yet.
> >
> > 4)Install 32b applications into a chroot as indicated in both Roberto's
> > howto above and, for what I need, ie not sound) in
> > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/356
> > without, however, following step
> > 1.4) You also need a link to your 32bit linker in the /lib path:
> >  $ cd /lib
> >  $ ln -s /var/sid-386-chroot/lib/ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux.so.2
> > because I read somewhere that installed libraries are linked per se.
> >
> > I hope the kernel provided supports my mainboard and I wish myself good
> > luck. But there cannot be good luck without some guidance. Thanks a lot
> >
> > francesco pietra
> >
> >
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