Re: amd64 into mainstream
On Monday 18 April 2005 10:44am, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 10:07:55AM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >
> > And if Ubuntu takes hold Debian may *never* become a good choice for the
> > desktop, that is what I fear, and that would mean abandoning Debian. :(
>
> There are many people that really don't care particularly much about
> desktop anything. I suspect they are often the people that make debian
> work. Not always but often.
Sigh. Which is why it seems the desktop oriented people are migrating to
Ubuntu or Gentoo or their doing their own thing within Debian but not *with*
Debian, or whatever. This is part of the Identity Crisis I referred to
earlier. The Server people aren't interested in the Desktop as Kyuu's post
shows, and the Desktop people aren't interested in the Server. This is the
kind of dichotomy that I fear may *require* a split just to resolve. Like an
amicable divorce. :)
> > Depends on how well Canonical does. If they continue to gain the
> > momentum of "The Desktop Debian", then in a few years they may be even in
> > a position to fork Debian all together, or stop supporting compatibility
> > on the package level, if Debian itself doesn't respond to the momentum
> > that Ubuntu is feeding on.
>
> Well I sure hope Debian does not decide to trade in quality for speed.
Spoken live a true Server dude. :) The Desktop people aren't interested in
tossing out quality, but part of their definition of a quality OS is
reasonably up to date software.
> If it can increase speed of development and release without a drop in
> quality, then sure I am all for it. But it's not a trade I would be
> willing to do if a trade was requried to get it.
Which is why there probably *should* be 2 Debian siblings and not one Debian.
The Server and Desktop siblings have common roots and a shared biology but
very different, and unfortunately, incompatible goals.
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