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Re: Concerns about AMD64 port

John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> writes:

> On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 06:46:12PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > > Plus, Goswin, in the long-run *multiarch* is the path of wasted time.
> > > If we are not going to want to waste our time, let us do a pure 64-bit
> > > userland, since eventually people will go there anyway, and multiarch
> > > will be deprecated on this platform.
> > 
> > It will be years until 32 bit support will not be needed anymore. A
> > lot of commercial or binary-only programs will allways need it.
> Funny, I've been running my Alpha since 1997 with no need for 32-bit
> support.

Never wanted/used Netscape?

> > There is more than Debian out there, we haven't yet taken over the
> > world. It will be a long time till a substancial part of non-free and
> > contrib will be ported to amd64. And it will be far longer until
> > people stop using the i386 software they bought.
> That is possibly true (you don't really know).
> But what you are forgetting is that this is a Unix*.  The traditional
> way of installing software on Unix is from source.  That is precisely
> because of the many platforms, and there is no problem with supporting a
> Unix on AMD64.

Give me the source to Civilization III and I'm happy. Thats the one
game I bought for linux and I want to keep playing it from time to

> > When people have the choice of installing debian and play
> > quake/doom/descent/civilization or install debian, setup a chroot
> > manually and play quake/doom/descent/civilization after hours of
> > fiddling around I think I know what they will choose.
> That's wrong.  It takes 10 minutes of fiddling.  debootstrap, then copy
> your /etc/resolv.conf, mount your proc, and your chroot is ready.
> Why do you support providing no 64-bit support for people that want to
> use *what's in Debian* in favor of adding 10 minutes to the life of
> people that want to use what's not?
> -- John

Because I'm one of them.

Apart from civ III there are also some windows codecs for mplayer and
wine I want to keep using.


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