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Re: newb question : list of elligible computers to debian-68k




On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, LilleTomte wrote:

...
> Fortunately, i rescued from the trash a powerbook 520c which happens to be
> listed on the 2.6 kernel page. I have a few other newb questions about its
> abitiy to get some kind of networking (any kind, actually ;) with debian-68k,
> amongst other things. The page
> http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org/status/MAC_MODEL_PB520.php states :
> 
> 1. PMU ADB: Status unknown.
> I suppose ADB is the apple desktop bus: does it mean that there is no known
> way to use its native keyboard/mouse ?

Correct.

> If so, is there any alternative ?

Only remote login over ethernet, since serial is broken.

> 2. NCR5380 SCSI: Broken
> Does that mean that it will not use scsi at all ?

The SCSI chip is present, but that driver is borken too.

> I'm not certain the internal hard drive is scsi (it's not very clear to 
> me from the specs).
> 
> 3. Serial: Broken. Cannot be used from userspace, but can be used for kernel
> debugging.
> My understanding is that I would not be able to use it to get TCP/IP with a
> null-modem cable as I'm doing with the Macintosh SE right now.

Correct.

> 
> 
> 3. SONIC ethernet: OK.
> Is that the internal AAUI ethernet controler ? That'd be great because I found
> a working adapter to hook it on a regular ethernet switch.

It should work...

> 4.NuBus: If initialized by MacOS, some cards can cause an early kernel panic
> on some models. Workaround: boot MacOS with extensions off, or use Emile
> instead of Penguin.
> I suppose i'm just too green to understand what it means yet

This doesn't relate to your machine as it lacks nubus slots.

Finn

>  for now the only
> peripheral I tried to plug was an Asanté micro en/sc (and that's scsi), with
> no success but I didnt try very long thanks to the AAUI ethernet adapter.
> 
> 
> Any pointers appreciated.
> 
> 
> Tomte
> 
> 
> 
> richard wrote:
> > Tomte,
> >
> > That page for kernel 2.6 is at http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org/status/
> > And for kernel 2.2 it is
> > http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org/status/v2.2/index.html
> >
> > The reason it is complicated is that there were some Mac versions did not
> > have a PMMU (Paged Memory Management Unit). A PMMU is essential for any
> > 680x0 based Macintosh to run Linux.
> >
> > Basically the first Macintosh computers that can run Debian are the SE/30,
> > the Mac II series, and the Powerbook 140 as they do have PMMUs. Since Apple
> > was rather innovative with hardware (a good thing generally) some features
> > may work less than perfectly. I have an SE/30 for which I installed Debian
> > potato with a 2.2 kernel. I upgraded to a 2.6 kernel and it's choppy now.
> > When the etch version is all the way ready for m68k, I want to try a clean
> > install.
> >
> > Richard Waterfield
> >
> > LilleTomte wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > Apologies if this is obvious but I could not find this info on the website
> > > :
> > > I understand that only 68k with MMU will work with debian 68k, but is
> > > there a list around with all the computers _known_ to work on this
> > > distribution ?
> > > It says on the site "Current Debian releases support Atari, Amiga, VMEbus,
> > > and some Macintosh systems." But I'd love to find something a bit more
> > > specific so I know what to look for.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tomte.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 

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