Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Sprints during DebCamp (and DebConf)
Hello dc-team,
I take off my Chairs hat now, please read the following lines as my own PoV.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 04:23:00PM +0100, Margarita Manterola wrote:
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> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> wrote:
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> >> This is not a silver bullet to avoid people coming to DebCamp on
> >> vacation. But we think it's something that will help many people make
> >> the most of that time.
> > [quoting my mail to content@debconf.org]
> > I beg to disagree. While I certainly would find a sprint topic I see no
> > reason at all to force people into defining a sprint topic in contrast
> > to a certain work plan. I considered DebCamp always a very productive
> > time and pressing people into predefined workplans might IMHO reduce
> > the creative environment.
>
> You seem to not have realized that I did not say the same thing of
> whatever was discussed in content@ (because I'm not in that alias, i
> don't really know the exact details of what was discussed).
>
IMHO Andreas was just being kind and sharing with the whole group his opinion, which had already been expressed within the content team. Thanks Andreas.
> Nowhere in my mail I said that participation in a sprint was a
> requirement. The idea is that it will simplify the DebCamp plan into
> being "I'll participate in the Sprint X" for the people that will
> participate in a sprint.
>
You did not mention that it was a requirement, but at the same time you said that people would not be asked about individual DebCamp plan, and that later on, we would publish the list of sprints and let people sign up for them. It also gave me the impression that being part of a sprint was a requirement.
Just to be super clear: in this new structure, will someone be able to participate in DebCamp because it collaborates with persons X, Y and Z, considering that face-to-face interactions are beneficial to their work, aka Debian, even though they do not fit in any sprint?
That was contentious point.
Having said that, encouraging sprints to happen is great and no one in the content team disagrees with that.
> > Yes. I never had the impression that people are doing vacation at
> > DebCamp. While we had some non-hacking activities at DebCamp this
> > was no difference to DebConf and this is IMHO part of the sense of
> > meeting Debianistas.
>
> Well, other people had other impressions. But I explicitly stated
> quite a bunch of goal which are not to avoid people on vacation.
> Please evaluate those goals instead.
>
The goals are good, however they do not imply sprints as a requirement. IMHO we should try to find a middle ground here, otherwise I see it as a way too structured plan, which risks to compromise DebCamp spontaneity.
Tassia.
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