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Re: [Debconf-team] Call for Help: DebConf14 Bursaries Team

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 05:54:41PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 12:26:34PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> >> >> Last year there was also an idea to do condorcet voting on the requests
> >> >> which sounded like a nice idea. The idea is that every member of the
> >> >> team assembles a (partial) ordering of the requests and we run that
> >> >> through condorcet to get the list of sponsored people.

> >> > The idea is interesting, but I believe it is too late for us to try
> >> > it.

> >> I don't think it's too late. The idea was IIRC mainly proposed by Steve.
> >> Mabe he can comment a bit more on it.

> > I still think this is a good idea in principle, but I personally don't have
> > time to implement something like this within summit, and I think trying to
> > rank 144 sponsorship requests (or even just the 70 travel sponsorship
> > requests) for Condorcet voting would be awkward to tally by hand.

> I certainly agree that we would need an automated solution for the
> tallying. I'm not sure if devotee would be able to do this.

> The main advantage I see in this method is that at least for me it seems
> easier and fairer to order the requests than to do the ranking we
> currently do. The ranking has the potential that my criteria shift a bit
> as I go through the list and to be absolutely fair I would have to go
> through all request again in a second round. Doing an ordering would
> make this easier.

How about this for an interim approach?

 - You create your ordered ranking locally of all the people asking for
   travel sponsorship.
 - You keep track of how much time this takes you to do, for postmortem
 - When we have the final tally in Summit of people who we will approve
   travel expenses for, you can review the list to see if there are any
   people not approved that you had scored higher than other people that
   are approved, and we can discuss these edge cases.
 - Afterwards, we can discuss whether it makes sense to use a formal
   condorcet vote and find out if someone is willing to do the work to
   implement this in time for next year :)

Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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