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Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next



Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@gwolf.org> writes:
...
> I tend to think, specially after the arguments mentioned in this
> thread, that this year it will be impossible. Specially because of the
> accomodation reality
...
> Again, if the DebConf-Children team still wants to pursue the idea,
> maybe getting it ready for DC14 (or think they can offer a good plan
> for DC13), please go ahead. But I do think it falls outside what we
> need for a DebConf.

BTW when I asked in the DC13 presentation in Managua whether there might
be room for a creche to be set up, I wasn't expecting anyone else to do
the work -- I was rather hoping to be able to persuade my wife, Gunde,
to come along, along with other parents of ~18-month-olds-by-then
(i.e. Ganneff & Pei, Tolimar & Mika, Martin & Penny ...)

We could then sort out some sort of rota between ourselves.  That seems
like enough of a critical mass to deal with the ~18month age group, of
course the more the merrier -- if similar clusters of ages exist with
enough parents to share the workload, then I'm sure they could do
similar rotas, with cross-pollination to further spread the load.

Of course, given the family-hostile accommodation that exists at Le Camp,
and the fact that camping isn't sounding like it's going to be allowed
(bizarrely), and the nearest alternative accommodation being miles away,
and there apparently being nothing nearby for non-debianites to
entertain themselves with, and it costing a fortune to be there, I doubt
I'll manage to persuade Gunde to come under any circumstances, so it's
probably not worth worrying about (for me at least).

That seems like a shame, given that this being a European DebConf with a
bunch of new parents that would like to turn up, it might well have
spawned a new DebConf tradition of being child-friendly, but the
location seems impractical for that for a whole raft of reasons.

Is it just me, or is this location actually impractical in general,
rather than specifically for the parents among us? (the double-sized
budget in the middle of a financial melt-down seems like reason enough
to be suspicious, and every other aspect I've heard about it seems
somehow problematic too).

Cheers, Phil.
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