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Re: [Debconf-team] The relationship between DIVA and SPI in terms of sponsorship money



Erh ...

"I am leader *of* DebConf11" not "or" as I initially wrote.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Adnan Hodzic <adnan@foolcontrol.org> wrote:
>> You're not sure if you're on the board? -- can you try to find a
>> correct list of who is?
>
> DIVA members are volunteers, I am leader or DebConf11 project and
> therefor am part of the board. Dzemila Josic is the president of this
> organization.
>
>> What is the organisation's formal status?  Is it incorporated as a
>> company, or just an informal association?  Is it registered as a
>> "non-profit" organisation of some kind?
>
> In the ministry of justice of Bosnia and Herzegovina it is registered
> as "DIVA" non-profit/governmental organization.
>
>> I'm not trying to be difficult, but these things are important to know
>> before an official agreement to handle money for Debian.  And in the
>> UK or US non-profit organisations are typically restricted in what
>> they can do with their money, based on their official registration
>> documents.
>
> I understand, no problem. There's no restrictions with what DIVA can
> do with the money, unless if it's used to generate profit.
>
>> For SPI/FFIS, the 'liaison' is a Debian person who is authorised to
>> instruct that organisation to spend money.  (The organisations want to
>> know who they can accept instructions from, so they don't need to try
>> to guess who won arguments!)  That liaison should probably be a Debian
>> member (so official DD), and it's probably better if there's a
>> separation between (different people for) making decisions about money
>> and actually giving the formal instructions for payments to be made.
>
> DIVA authorizes me to be that person. Now I don't know if this is
> going to represent problem for you since I am a DD, but not a official
> one :) But either way I was planning to apply for position before
> DebConf, unless I could do it the "fast" way and apply as
> non-maintainer DD, which again wouldn't be correct as I am a
> maintainer.
>
>
> Adnan
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Moray Allan <moray@sermisy.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Adnan Hodzic <adnan@foolcontrol.org> wrote:
>>>> Who is on the board of directors?  What is its charter?  Who does the
>>>> board report to?
>>>
>>> Well since I was in this organization since its inception I believe
>>> I'm on the board of directors as well. Everybody talks to each other
>>> before any decision is being made there has to be a general agreement
>>> among members, a consensus.
>>
>> You're not sure if you're on the board? -- can you try to find a
>> correct list of who is?
>>
>> What is the organisation's formal status?  Is it incorporated as a
>> company, or just an informal association?  Is it registered as a
>> "non-profit" organisation of some kind?
>>
>> I'm not trying to be difficult, but these things are important to know
>> before an official agreement to handle money for Debian.  And in the
>> UK or US non-profit organisations are typically restricted in what
>> they can do with their money, based on their official registration
>> documents.
>>
>>>> To give context about money-holding organizations, SPI and FFIS are
>>>> both designed for softwae and information related purposes.  Both have
>>>> a formal relationship with Debian, and there is a Debian liason in the
>>>> project to these organizations.  Also, as an extra level of
>>>> association, Debian Members work prominently in both of these
>>>> organizations.
>>>
>>> For DIVA I personally would be that person.
>>
>> For SPI/FFIS, the 'liaison' is a Debian person who is authorised to
>> instruct that organisation to spend money.  (The organisations want to
>> know who they can accept instructions from, so they don't need to try
>> to guess who won arguments!)  That liaison should probably be a Debian
>> member (so official DD), and it's probably better if there's a
>> separation between (different people for) making decisions about money
>> and actually giving the formal instructions for payments to be made.
>>
>> --
>> Moray
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