Re: [Debconf-team] What if you don't get DebConf 7?
On Saturday 08 July 2006 07:43, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > Yes, we are going for all or nothing proposal, we believe we are worth
> > and more than capable of having a great DebConf7 in Sarajevo. Thank you
> > very much for your proposal, but will not settle for less.
>
> I personnally regard this as sad. I actually share AJ's feelings. This
> is not a "win or lose" game and if you would not get the bid for DC7,
> I think you should take this as an opportunity to continue building a
> strong local commitment for further bids.
>
> You already achieved a big success, Safir, by turning something which
> I personnally was considering as the "dream by one man" to a team
> approach and a very valuable proposition.
>
Thank you, I know it, and we are proud of what we have accomplished so far.
> I actually have a small preference for the Sarajevo bid...but this has
> not much value because I don't have all the information and I don't
> have the intent to be involved more in Debconf organization.
>
> But, even if the preferences goes for EDI, I would really urge you to
> reconsider that "all or nothing" approach. I repeat: your bid is
> *already* a success. A few months ago, I think I can say that nearly
> no-one was really thinking that you would succeed in presenting
> something that we could trust. You have made it and I think that
> nearly noone is now believing that the Sarajevo bid is not
> thrustworthy.
>
Yes, we acknowledge this as well, it is a shame more of us have not been
directly involved in Debian.
> *That* is a huge success. Don't let it fall down by abandoning. Your
> goal, Safir, is to promote Free Software and mostly Debian in
> Bosnia. Believe me, that involves working on DC8 or DC9 organization
> if you're not chosen for DC7.
>
We are building a strong regional team, and having the DC7 would make our team
form and ignite a spark of unity here. It would make a big impact IMHO.
Well, maybe for DC9, or some other, since DC8 is going to another continent,
but, this is all in the long run now. It is possible though, although
speculative.
> About "mud throwing": well, some exchanges recently have not been very
> friendly. And I understand you may have taken some questions or
> interrogations as quite insulting (I guess mostly the concerns about
> the general attitude of people towards women...or the considerations
> about the relations between the Islamic Cultural Center and some
> allegately terrorist organizations).
>
> Understanding that you or your friends could have been hurted by this
> is easy..it was obvious through your reactions and especially the very
> inappropriate post about security in UK. Let's be positive: this shows
> that you're highly committed to promote your culture and help us
> discover it. This also means that you're (sometimes too) enthusiast.
>
This has been so low Christian, that we really expected fair play from others,
nothing like this. Comparing Bosnia to some middle/far east countries is a
matter of good taste, and nothing in touch with reality really. Whoever has
been in Bosnia lately will tell you that.
This is not meant as an attack or anything:
I just ask EDI team to present their case in a way that is required for
DebConf7 bid. Will all necessary information and terms and deadlines, please
people we have expected much more from you, up until now, only your "name"
has been your advocate.
> Another argument which should motivate you to *not* give
> up if you fail for DC7.
>
I agree totaly, and thank you for this insightful email.
Regards,
Safir
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