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Use of invoke-rc.d as admin is bad (Was: Help with wireless)



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On 10-07-2005 22:16, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> [2005.07.10.2216 +0300]:
> 
>>Really? Why?
> 
> 
> Here's what I wrote in my book:
> 
> The \programme{invoke-rc.d} script is Debian's way of interacting
> with the scripts in \dir{/etc/init.d}. However, it was not designed
> to be used by the system administrator, as it does not provide the
> necessary flexibility. For instance, a certain daemon may be
> stopped, but in a floating state, suggesting that it is perfectly
> okay for the daemon to be running in the current runlevel, it just
> has not been started. If the administrator were to use
> \programme{invoke-rc.d}, it would fail to start the daemon because
> of the lack of the corresponding \file{S} link in runlevel's
> \dir{rcX.d} directory.
> 
> Obviously, if it works for you, use it. Just don't advocate it
> blindly to others until we had a chance to rework the policy layer.

I am not quite sure I understand. I assume that it is then no better to
directly use "/etc/init.d/jabber stop" instead, right?

What should then be used instead? Reading the init.d script to
understand what was in fact started, and then shutdown/kill each daemon
by other means?


>>And file-rc providing bash-completion for that command should be filed
>>as a bug?
> 
> 
> Probably. :)

Could you please do that? As I do not understand the issue raised I am
unable to help explain it to others as well.


 - Jonas


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