On 3/26/19 7:07 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote:
I expect it wouldn't be all that hard to migrate to Sympa. Also open source, well supported, and designed for much larger operations than mailman (designed for universities). Converting archives might be an issue, or older archives could just be left as is.Hi Alex, Alexander Wirt:On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, Jonas Meurer wrote:Alexander Wirt:In my experience as a former mailman admin and listadmin mailman is a no-go. Getting our feature set even nearly into mailman is impossible, takes years and will just get us an unmaintainable thing. I don't want to ever run a bigger mailman setup again.Can you give an example, what from "our feature set" is missing in mailman? Also, you probably mean mailman2, right? Have you taken a look at mailman3 recently?Sure, just a few coming into mind: All those gpg related features we use, our spam removal tools, our special archiving hacks, we way we support blacklist through several lists, our second line of spamfiltering, crossassassin, the way we can do management on several lists and probably a lot more I forgot. It may take man years to do a migration (in fact we talked about that a few days ago in our internal IRC channel and this is more or less consense about the needed effort).Thanks for elaborating on that. At least some of them might be interesting to submit as mailman3 feature requests as they probably would be of help for other projects that use mailman3 as well. I fully understand that you as the listmasters don't consider to switch right now though.
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