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Re: Final Draft: Interpretive Guideline regarding DFSG clause 3



On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 12:44:50PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> I said that the precedent of allowing emacs in main is a good
> precedent, and that it was not an accident.

Cite evidence that people were clearly aware of the license restrictions
on the Emacs *documentation*.

Emacs itself was and is under the GPL and therefore likely did not come
under close scrutiny.

Indeed, it's the occasional failure of Debian to scrutinize the license
on every single file in a package that led the FSF recently to offer to
contribute legal resources to Debian's efforts on this front.

Or is it your assertion that the FSF is acting with an ulterior motive
in making this offer, and that they actually feel that Debian has had no
trouble going over every license on every file in main with a
fine-toothed comb?

> Evidence for that is that Bruce thinks it was perfectly OK.

Did Bruce, or anyone else, address the issue of the Emacs documentation
specifically?  How about a cite for your assertions?

> He was there at the time, you know.

I guess he signed off on the non-free source in the XFree86 source
package then, as well.

> He doesn't have some final say on anything, but certainly he is good
> evidence for what the *precedent* has, in fact, been, and whether it
> was accidental or intentional.

Intentionality follows from cognizance.  Accident follows from the lack
thereof.  Demonstrate cognizance of the specific issue at hand by the
parties involved.

> Yes, you're the chief troublemaker.  :)  Of course it matters whether
> something is pleasing to you, for the simple reason that we're trying
> to reach agreement among many individuals, and you are one of them.  

I've already answered this question several times, see
Message-ID: <[🔎] 20011212213130.GA7270@deadbeast.net> for one example.

I suppose you figure if you keep asking, eventually I'll change my
answer.

-- 
G. Branden Robinson                |     One man's "magic" is another man's
Debian GNU/Linux                   |     engineering.  "Supernatural" is a
branden@debian.org                 |     null word.
http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |     -- Robert Heinlein

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