Hi David, please cc: me on replies. On Samstag, 7. Februar 2015, David Kalnischkies wrote: > > $ apt-get -y install dpkg apt > > [... tons of debug output ...] > > Well, as the one who asked for all this output to be generated, let me > say that I am happy about it as it means that the following is curtsy of > just reading and skipping over these lines rather than taking hours to > get this reproduced. Its all a matter of knowing what they actually > mean of course. Someday I should give a course… :) As someone who thinks the logs are too big and uncomprehensible now (iceweasel is not scrolling these huge logs nicely anymore), I wonder if there's an option to write these extended logs into a file, which can be downloaded seperatly? Because, I have already thought about removing this debug output again, because it makes the logs unreadable to most of us. Or: if a job fails, run it again with debug output enabled, and save that second run output in a file which can be downloaded seperatly... Any better suggestions? > From there up, it only goes further downhill as it all becomes more and > more surreal thanks for your detailed investigation. I'll leave this to others to sort out :/ > So, the solution to this is not in apt, nor is it an apt problem per-se. > If you decide that this "upgrade first" scenario isn't of interest this > is a non-issue. Everyone should just do a "apt-get dist-upgrade" and be > done. That's neither what the release note say nor what people do. Since years I alwys do "upgrade" first and then "dist-upgrade"... > P.S.: 'install' and 'dist-upgrade' have a very different approach to > solving, so I am not very surprised that 'install' fails to do it and > I doubt that problems seen in the bottom-up approach can be seen in > a dist-upgrade - mostly as the cage-fight scores will be different. Do you think it would be worthwhile to have another set of tests, where we do "install" instead of "dist-upgrade"? jenkins ressources are cheap, finding errors by chance through humans is expensive ;-) cheers, Holger
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