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Re: Future of X packages in Debian



On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Michel D�er wrote:

> > > Clearly there is some minimal filtering. We are not patch-o-matic robots.
> > > And we take responsabilities for the changes we introduce. Personally if i
> > > don't feel to comfortable in applying a patch, i rather prefer to check it
> > > twice before inclusion. Specially because we will have to maintain it
> > > during the time.
>
> Sounds good, but as a matter of fact, the last couple of uploads all
> contained more or less brown paper bag bugs. It would be nice if those
> could be dealt with even more promptly, or even better prevented from
> happening in the first place. :)

Yes we all agree that there were and there are this kind of bugs. We are
working on them but preventing is not always possible without a good deal
of people/testers that works on pre-releases with us.

For example the alt+tab problem. I have never used alt+tab to navigate on
my desktop. I didn't even know it existed.. sorry i am a very old fashion
guy coming from AmiOS where a mouse click was enough to change focus on a
window ;) now i know it's there and i play with it since the bug has been
found.. kinda of regression test.. probably on a larger testers base that
would have come out much faster.

I consider problems like this a fault of all people not answering to our
calls for testers, but i take the full responsability if it takes more
time than expected to fix a problem.

Also, reverting the changes is not always the right direction to go.
We need to have a chance to fix problems other than postponing them.

Thanks
Fabio

-- 
<user> fajita: step one
<fajita> Whatever the problem, step one is always to look in the error log.
<user> fajita: step two
<fajita> When in danger or in doubt, step two is to scream and shout.



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